HEAT ON ABBAS OVER INTERVIEW

JERUSALEM DIVIDED

ZECHARIAH 12:1-5 King James Bible
1 The burden of the word of the LORD for Israel, saith the LORD, which stretcheth forth the heavens, and layeth the foundation of the earth, and formeth the spirit of man within him.
2 Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of trembling unto all the people round about, when they shall be in the siege both against Judah and against Jerusalem.
3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.
4 In that day, saith the LORD, I will smite every horse with astonishment, and his rider with madness: and I will open mine eyes upon the house of Judah, and will smite every horse of the people with blindness.
5 And the governors of Judah shall say in their heart, The inhabitants of Jerusalem shall be my strength in the LORD of hosts their God.

JOEL 3:2 (WW3 OCCURS WHEN JERUSALEM IS DIVIDED)
2 I will also gather all nations, and will bring them down into the valley of Jehoshaphat, and will plead with them there for my people (ISRAEL) and for my heritage Israel, whom they have scattered among the nations, and parted my land.(JERUSALEM)(WW3 STARTS BECAUSE JERUSALEM IS DIVIDED AND ISRAELIS UPROOTED FROM THEIR GOD GIVIN LAND BRINGS 3 DEAD BILLION IN WW3)

PSALS 137:5-6
5  If I forget thee, O Jerusalem, let my right hand forget her cunning.
6  If I do not remember thee, let my tongue cleave to the roof of my mouth; if I prefer not Jerusalem above my chief joy.

ZECHARIAH 14:12-13
12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the LORD will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.
13 And it shall come to pass in that day, that a great tumult from the LORD shall be among them; and they shall lay hold every one on the hand of his neighbour, and his hand shall rise up against the hand of his neighbour.(1/2-3 BILLION DIE IN WW3)

ZECHARIAH 14:1-9 King James Bible
1 Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.
2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
3 Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.

LAND FOR PEACE (THE FUTURE 7 YEARS OF HELL ON EARTH)

THE WEEK OF DANIEL 9:27 WE KNOW ITS 7 YRS

Heres the scripture 1 week = 7 yrs Genesis 29:27-29
27 Fulfil her week, and we will give thee this also for the service which thou shalt serve with me yet seven other years.
28 And Jacob did so, and fulfilled her week: and he gave him Rachel his daughter to wife also.
29 And Laban gave to Rachel his daughter Bilhah his handmaid to be her maid.

DANIEL 11:21-23
21 And in his estate shall stand up a vile person, to whom they shall not give the honour of the kingdom: but he shall come in peaceably, and obtain the kingdom by flatteries.
23 And after the league made with him he shall work deceitfully: for he shall come up, and shall become strong with a small people.
24 He shall enter peaceably even upon the fattest places of the province; and he shall do that which his fathers have not done, nor his fathers' fathers; he shall scatter among them the prey, and spoil, and riches: yea, and he shall forecast his devices against the strong holds, even for a time.

DANIEL 9:26-27
26 And after threescore and two weeks(62X7=434 YEARS+7X7=49 YEARS=TOTAL OF 69 WEEKS OR 483 YRS) shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary;(ROMAN LEADERS DESTROYED THE 2ND TEMPLE) and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.(THERE HAS TO BE 70 WEEKS OR 490 YRS TO FUFILL THE VISION AND PROPHECY OF DAN 9:24).(THE NEXT VERSE IS THAT 7 YR WEEK OR (70TH FINAL WEEK).
27 And he( THE ROMAN,EU PRESIDENT) shall confirm the covenant (PEACE TREATY) with many for one week:(1X7=7 YEARS) and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease,(3 1/2 yrs in TEMPLE SACRIFICES STOPPED) and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

JEREMIAH 6:14
14 They have healed also the hurt of the daughter of my people slightly, saying, Peace, peace; when there is no peace.

JEREMIAH 8:11
11 For they have healed the hurt of the daughter of my people slightly, saying, Peace, peace; when there is no peace.

1 THESSALONIANS 5:3
3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.

ISAIAH 33:8
8  The highways lie waste, the wayfaring man ceaseth: he hath broken the covenant,(7 YR TREATY) he hath despised the cities, he regardeth no man.(THE WORLD LEADER-WAR MONGER CALLS HIMSELF GOD)

ISAIAH 28:14-19 (THIS IS THE 7 YR TREATY COVENANT OF DANIEL 9:27)
14 Wherefore hear the word of the LORD, ye scornful men, that rule this people which is in Jerusalem.
15 Because ye have said, We have made a covenant with death, and with hell are we at agreement; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, it shall not come unto us: for we have made lies our refuge, and under falsehood have we hid ourselves:
16 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD, Behold, I lay in Zion for a foundation a stone, a tried stone, a precious corner stone, a sure foundation: he that believeth shall not make haste.
17 Judgment also will I lay to the line, and righteousness to the plummet: and the hail shall sweep away the refuge of lies, and the waters shall overflow the hiding place.
18 And your covenant with death shall be disannulled, and your agreement with hell shall not stand; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, then ye shall be trodden down by it.
19 From the time that it goeth forth it shall take you: for morning by morning shall it pass over, by day and by night: and it shall be a vexation only to understand the report.

Palestinian statehood doesn’t threaten Israel — but stalled peace process might, internal Foreign Ministry report says

Insisting that Palestinians recognize Israel as a Jewish state will not help Israel’s legitimacy, senior official writes; Liberman says he never heard of the report

By Raphael Ahren November 5, 2012, 5:27 am 1-THE TIMES OF ISRAEL

The Palestinian statehood bid at the United Nations does not delegitimize Israel, Jerusalem’s demand for recognition as a Jewish state does nothing for the country’s legitimacy, and the stalled peace process harms Israeli interests. All these assertions, which read like the talking points of a European government or a pro-Palestinian NGO, are found in a report written by a senior official in the Foreign Ministry, of Israel.

The classified report, excerpts of which were published Sunday in Maariv, appear to contradict key foreign policy positions of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Foreign Minister Avigdor Liberman.“The Palestinian move [to receive nonmember status at the UN] should not necessarily be seen as an act of delegitimization, even if in the future the statehood status given to the Palestinians will be used for hostile measures,” the report said.The Palestinian Authority has announced it will soon ask the UN General Assembly for the status of a nonmember state, which would enable it to join the International Criminal Court and other UN-related institutions.In a first response to the report’s publication, the Foreign Ministry said the text was not an official position paper and contained no policy recommendations. Liberman said he was not familiar with the report, and suggested it carried little actual weight.The paper was authored by D.J. Schneeweiss, who until July served as the Foreign Ministry’s director of civil society affairs, in which position he oversaw the ministry’s efforts to counter attempts to delegitimize Israel in the international arena.In the report, Schneeweiss, who is currently Israel’s consul-general in Toronto, argued that the Netanyahu government’s insistence that the Palestinians recognize Israel as a Jewish state, and its fierce opposition to the Palestinian UN membership scheme, does very little to further Israel’s cause. On the other hand, he seemed to suggest that starting a diplomatic effort to revive the peace process would strengthen Jerusalem’s position.

The government’s current legislative initiatives and the comportment of the IDF in the West Bank, however, are counterproductive to Israel’s struggle in the court of public opinion, and should be conducted differently, Schneeweiss wrote, according to Maariv.“We’ve become a stationary target that is unable to create its own attractive agenda and is forced to respond to the agenda of others,” Schneeweiss wrote.The fact that a majority of the world’s nations are likely to recognize a Palestinian state “does not necessarily imply the rejection or the negation of Israel’s existence,” Schneeweiss reportedly wrote, without stating whether he supports or opposes Israel’s rejection of the Palestinian statehood bid at the UN.It needs to be understood, Schneeweiss added, that Jerusalem’s insistence on Palestinian recognition of Israel as a Jewish state “does not guarantee Israel the necessary Western institutional legitimacy.”While Schneeweiss, a native of Sydney, Australia, argued that Israel needs to counter the work of anti-Israel activists, he added that “we must not forget that also our own actions influence and shape this reality” of a climate hostile to Israel.

The author of the report, DJ Schneeweiss, currently Israel’s consul-general in Toronto (photo credit: courtesy embassies.gov.il)

The report indirectly criticized Israel for the stalled peace talks with the Palestinians, saying “there is no doubt that conducting credible peace talks could limit the effects of the hostile campaign led by Israel’s various detractors.”Israel’s leaders should not only speak of Israel’s right to exist and boast that it is the only democracy in the Middle East, but should actively work to safeguard the country’s character as oriented on Western values, Schneeweiss suggested.According to Maariv, Schneeweiss criticized the Israeli government for some bills that were recently proposed in the Knesset and which critics considered “anti-democratic” because they would harm left-wing human rights groups in their ability to conduct their work in Israel, as well as for the way the IDF deals with international human rights NGOs working in the West Bank. Jerusalem should take note of how Western countries regard Israel’s conduct in these areas, he wrote in the report. European governments generally reacted critically to Israeli legislation that purportedly curtailed the work of such NGOs.The Foreign Ministry in Jerusalem responded to the publication of Schneeweiss’s report, saying that he had written it at the end of his tenure as the director of the ministry’s anti-delegitimization department and was merely defining concepts and demarcating the department’s responsibilities.“The author deals with the department’s activities and its interfaces with other departments within the ministry, but the report is not a position paper or a policy recommendation by the Foreign Ministry,” according to a statement released Sunday.Speaking to Army Radio on Sunday, Liberman said the Foreign Ministry publishes “four reports a day, and I don’t read all of them.” Nobody in his office knew of the report, he said, quipping that “maybe it was written specifically for the journalist” who published it.At the time of publication, Schneeweiss had not responded to a Times of Israel’s email requesting comment.

Livni hails Abbas’s moderate peace comments, says she heard the same when she negotiated with PA

Former foreign minister blames Netanyahu government for falsely telling Israelis they have no peace partner

By Times of Israel staff and Raphael Ahren November 4, 2012, 8:57 pm 11-THE TIMES OF ISRAEL

In a positive response to Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas’s recent moderate-sounding comments on peace terms, former foreign minister Tzipi Livni said Sunday that Israelis who seek to preserve a Jewish, democratic Israel should appreciate his remarks and recognize that he does constitute a peace partner.Livni’s endorsement mirrored President Shimon Peres’s immediate praise for Abbas’s comments, made in a Channel 2 interview on Thursday, and contrasted strikingly with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s assessment of the Palestinian leader’s statements as deceptive and empty promises.Peres was reported Sunday to have telephoned Abbas to praise his comments and encourage him amid the criticism he has endured from Palestinian opponents.In his comments Thursday, Abbas stated that Palestinians have no territorial claims beyond the 1967 lines and said he personally had no “right” to return permanently to his birthplace in Safed, in today’s northern Israel. He clarified, nonetheless, that the refugee issue would have to be solved in negotiations based on the Arab League peace initiative, via an “agreed basis” with neither side able to “impose” a solution upon the other.Livni said the positions Abbas expressed in the TV interview matched “what we heard in the negotiations” that she oversaw with the Palestinians in the government led by Ehud Olmert in which she served as foreign minister until four years ago.Olmert, who, like Livni, is currently contemplating a political comeback, issued a statement Sunday also saying Abbas had set out similar positions in their meetings.Livni said it had been “brave” for Abbas to make his comments publicly; indeed, Hamas has led a chorus of criticism of Abbas this weekend for purportedly giving up on the long-standing Palestinian demand for a “right of return.” Abbas said in interviews Saturday with the Arabic media that he did no such thing, and was “speaking personally” when he said he had no right to live in Safed.Livni said the Netanyahu government had unfortunately spent four years telling Israelis they had no partner for peace, when the reverse was true. She said she could hardly blame Abbas for not rushing into new talks with Netanyahu when the Israeli government was so overtly hostile to him. Foreign Minister Avigdor Liberman, she said, has been “leading a campaign to oust” Abbas (Liberman has called Abbas “a political terrorist”), “which would put Hamas in power.”Livni said she was sorry that political leaders from what she called her part of the political spectrum had not welcomed Abbas’s comments.Labor party leader Shelly Yachimovich offered a lukewarm response to Abbas, but said Sunday there were two positives in his remarks — his pledge that there would be no new armed intifada, and what she described as his giving up on the “right of return.”

Livni also said she had yet to make up her mind on a possible comeback. She was ousted as leader of the Kadima party earlier this year, and quit the Knesset.Asked in Thursday’s interview what he considered to be Palestine, Abbas responded that “Palestine now for me is the ’67 borders, with East Jerusalem as its capital. This is now and forever… This is Palestine for me. I am [a] refugee, but I am living in Ramallah.”

Interviewer Udi Segal cut in: “Sometimes your official television… speak(s) about Acre and Ramle and Jaffa [all cities within sovereign Israel] as ‘Palestine.’ ”“I believe that [the] West Bank and Gaza is Palestine,” said Abbas, “and the other parts (are) Israel.”Noting that he himself was born in Safed, in what since 1948 has been northern Israel, Abbas said he had visited the town and would like to see it again, but not to make his home there. “It’s my right to see it, but not to live there,” he said.Abbas’s moderate comments contrasted deeply with the bitterly hostile speech he delivered to the United Nations General Assembly a month ago. He also indicated that he represented the final chance for peace between Israel and the Palestinians. “As long as I am here in this office, there will be no armed third intifada,” he promised, “never.”“We don’t want to use terror,” Abbas said. “We don’t want to use force. We don’t want to use weapons. We want to use diplomacy. We want to use politics. We want to use negotiations. We want to use peaceful resistance. That’s it.”Michal Shmulovich contributed to this report.

Netanyahu ‘strengthened Hamas, weakened PA,’ Olmert charges in wake of Abbas interview

Likud ministers slam former PM for distorting reality

By Asher Zeiger November 4, 2012, 8:47 pm 1-THE TIMES OF ISRAEL

While welcoming Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas’s recent comments regarding peace terms with Israel, former prime minister Ehud Olmert on Sunday lambasted his successor, claiming that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu had “strengthened Hamas and weakened the Palestinian Authority led by Mahmoud Abbas” during his term in office.“The interviews that the Palestinian president has given in the past few days should demonstrate to the Israeli public that there is somebody to talk to, and something to talk about, in order to resolve the bloody conflict… that has gone on for too long,” Olmert said.However, according to the former prime minister, since the current government rose to power, “negotiations have been frozen [by Israel] in an attempt to prove… that there is no Palestinian partner.”In an interview aired Friday night on Channel 2, Abbas said that even though he was born in Safed — a city in what is now northern Israel — he has the “right to see it, but not to live there.” On the surface, his comments indicate a moderated stance on the long-standing Palestinian demand for a “right of return” to Israel for millions of refugees and descendants of refugees.Olmert was roundly criticized for his comments by members of the current government.Environmental Protection Minister Gilad Erdan said the former premier “has once again shown that there’s no limit to his chutzpah, and he continues to distort historical reality.” Erdan charged that it was in fact Olmert whose unilateral disengagement from Gaza had enabled Hamas to participate in the elections, and to take control of the Gaza Strip.“It is ridiculous,” said Erdan, “that now [Olmert] is flinging accusations and relies on the public’s short memory.”Education Minister Gideon Sa’ar also had harsh words for Olmert, calling the criticism of Netanyahu’s government “outrageous and very grave.” Sa’ar said that Olmert did not have “even one word of criticism for the Palestinian Authority, which, for close to four years, has deliberately avoided negotiations with the Israeli government.”Olmert has been weighing a return to politics, but his ability to run for office was cast in doubt in October when the State Attorney’s Office informed Olmert’s lawyers that it would appeal the ruling in at least one, and possibly both, of the two substantive corruption cases in which the former prime minister was acquitted by the Jerusalem District Court in July.While some, including President Shimon Peres, lauded Abbas’s remarks, ministers in Netanyahu’s government expressed skepticism over the genuineness of the Palestinian leader’s intentions.Perhaps Abbas “prefers Ramallah… over Safed,” Strategic Affairs Minister Moshe Ya’alon said on Sunday, citing a quote from Abbas’s interview, “but that does not mean that he doesn’t want the Palestinians to eventually come to Safed.”

Earlier Sunday, Foreign Minister Avigdor Liberman told Army Radio that Abbas’s statements were an attempt to “interfere with [Israeli] elections on behalf of the left.”Netanyahu, similarly skeptical, said that if Abbas “really” wanted to progress toward peace, he would agree to resume talks. At Sunday’s weekly cabinet meeting, the prime minister called on the PA president “to return immediately to the negotiating table without preconditions.”Ilan Ben Zion contributed to this report.