Friday, November 09, 2012

PA STATE OR NOT - YES BY THE BIBLE

ZECHARIAH 12:1-3 King James Bible
1 The burden of the word of the LORD for Israel, saith the LORD, which stretcheth forth the heavens, and layeth the foundation of the earth, and formeth the spirit of man within him.
2 Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of trembling unto all the people round about, when they shall be in the siege both against Judah and against Jerusalem.
3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.

JOEL 3:2 (WW3 OCCURS WHEN JERUSALEM IS DIVIDED)
2 I will also gather all nations, and will bring them down into the valley of Jehoshaphat, and will plead with them there for my people (ISRAEL) and for my heritage Israel, whom they have scattered among the nations, and parted my land.(JERUSALEM)(WW3 STARTS BECAUSE JERUSALEM IS DIVIDED AND ISRAELIS UPROOTED FROM THEIR GOD GIVIN LAND BRINGS 3 DEAD BILLION IN WW3)

PSALMS 137:5-6
5  If I forget thee, O Jerusalem, let my right hand forget her cunning.
6  If I do not remember thee, let my tongue cleave to the roof of my mouth; if I prefer not Jerusalem above my chief joy.

ZECHARIAH 14:12-13
12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the LORD will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.
13 And it shall come to pass in that day, that a great tumult from the LORD shall be among them; and they shall lay hold every one on the hand of his neighbour, and his hand shall rise up against the hand of his neighbour.(1/2-3 BILLION DIE IN WW3)

ZECHARIAH 14:1-9 King James Bible
1 Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.
2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
3 Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.

EU SPAIN #11

DANIEL 7:23-25
23 Thus he said, The fourth beast (EU,REVIVED ROME) shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth,(7TH WORLD EMPIRE) which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.(TRADING BLOCKS-10 WORLD REGIONS/TRADE BLOCS)
24 And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings(10 NATIONS-10 DIVISION WORLD GOVERNMENT) that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.(TAKE OVER 3 WORLD REGIONS)

Heres the scripture 1 week = 7 yrs Genesis 29:27-29
27 Fulfil her week, and we will give thee this also for the service which thou shalt serve with me yet seven other years.
28 And Jacob did so, and fulfilled her week: and he gave him Rachel his daughter to wife also.
29 And Laban gave to Rachel his daughter Bilhah his handmaid to be her maid.

DANIEL 9:26-27
26 And after threescore and two weeks(62X7=434 YEARS+7X7=49 YEARS=TOTAL OF 69 WEEKS OR 483 YRS) shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary;(ROMAN LEADERS DESTROYED THE 2ND TEMPLE) and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.(THERE HAS TO BE 70 WEEKS OR 490 YRS TO FUFILL THE VISION AND PROPHECY OF DAN 9:24).(THE NEXT VERSE IS THAT 7 YR WEEK OR (70TH FINAL WEEK).
27 And he( THE ROMAN,EU PRESIDENT) shall confirm the covenant (PEACE TREATY) with many for one week:(1X7=7 YEARS) and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease,(3 1/2 yrs in TEMPLE SACRIFICES STOPPED) and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

1 THESSALONIANS 5:3
3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.

ISAIAH 28:14-19 (THIS IS THE 7 YR TREATY COVENANT OF DANIEL 9:27)
14 Wherefore hear the word of the LORD, ye scornful men, that rule this people which is in Jerusalem.
15 Because ye have said, We have made a covenant with death, and with hell are we at agreement; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, it shall not come unto us: for we have made lies our refuge, and under falsehood have we hid ourselves:
16 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD, Behold, I lay in Zion for a foundation a stone, a tried stone, a precious corner stone, a sure foundation: he that believeth shall not make haste.
17 Judgment also will I lay to the line, and righteousness to the plummet: and the hail shall sweep away the refuge of lies, and the waters shall overflow the hiding place.
18 And your covenant with death shall be disannulled, and your agreement with hell shall not stand; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, then ye shall be trodden down by it.
19 From the time that it goeth forth it shall take you: for morning by morning shall it pass over, by day and by night: and it shall be a vexation only to understand the report.

Twelve EU countries likely to back Palestine's UN bid

Today @ 09:27 NOV 9,12 By Andrew Rettman
BRUSSELS - Palestine can count on about 12 Yes votes by EU countries when it seeks to upgrade its UN status, in a move expected later this month.EU foreign affairs spokeswoman Maja Kocijancic told EUobserver on Thursday (8 November) that foreign ministers will debate the subject at a regular meeting in Brussels on 19 November.She added that: "The EU maintains that negotiations remain the best way forward to resolve the Middle East peace process."A senior EU diplomat told this website the same day the EU remains divided on the question, however. He noted that member states' votes "will probably follow the same pattern as with Unesco," referring to a decision by the UN's Paris-based cultural wing to admit Palestine as a member last year.At the time, 11 countries - Austria, Belgium, Cyprus, Finland, France, Greece, Ireland, Luxembourg, Malta, Slovenia and Spain - backed the Unesco bid.Another 11 - Bulgaria, Denmark, Estonia, Hungary, Italy, Latvia, Poland, Portugal, Slovakia, Romania and the UK - abstained. The other five - the Czech Republic, Germany, Lithuania, the Netherlands and Sweden - voted No.Some of the positions might have shifted over the past 12 months.Cyprus and Israel have in the meantime developed closer ties over a joint project to explore natural gas reserves in the Mediterranean Sea.But Israel lost an ally in Brussels when Dutch foreign minister Uri Rosenthal left his post in a new coalition government this week.Rosenthal's successor, centre-left politician Frans Timmermans, has in the past criticised the Dutch government's pro-Israeli stance. Last September, he tabled a motion in the Dutch parliament saying The Hague should back Palestine's bid to get a Vatican-type observer status in the UN.The Palestinian side on Thursday circulated a draft UN resolution seeking "Observer State status ... on the basis of the pre-1967 borders."
The draft text echoes the EU's common position on the conflict by also calling for "the resumption and acceleration of negotiations" and "two states, an independent, sovereign, democratic, contiguous and viable state of Palestine, living side by side in peace and security with Israel."It needs a simple majority in the UN to pass, with a vote expected on 15 November or on 29 November.Palestine's chief negotiator on the conflict, Saeb Erakat, in October described the move as "a sword on [the] neck" of Israel, because if it goes through, Palestine will have the right to file cases against Israel at the International Criminal Court in The Hague.
For his part, Israel's foreign minister Avigdor Lieberman will on Friday in Vienna meet with Israel's ambassadors to European countries to co-ordinate a blocking campaign.He gave a flavour of what Israeli diplomats will be telling EU capitals in coming days at a recent meeting with EU foreign affairs chief Catherine Ashton in Israel."He threatened to withhold Palestine's tax revenues, to cut off their electricity and water supplies and to flood the occupied territories with new settlements if they go ahead with the UN vote," an EU source told this website.In an another foretaste of things to come, Israel this week unveiled the construction of almost 1,300 new settler homes on occupied land.The US is also lobbying EU countries not to back the UN bid.The state department sent a confidential memo to member states' UN ambassadors in September saying that the observer status bid "would have significant negative consequences, for the peace process itself, for the UN system, as well for our ability to maintain significant financial support for the Palestinian Authority."It noted: "We believe your government understands what is at stake here, and - like us - wants to avoid a collision."It added that EU governments should tell other UN members and their Palestinian contacts that its UN bid "would be extremely counter-productive.

Senior Palestinian official claims Abbas may postpone UN move, report says

If US offers ‘clear objective’ for negotiations, Ramallah said willing to reconsider a unilateral push for nonmember state status

November 9, 2012, 8:53 am 3-THE TIMES OF ISRAEL

A senior Palestinian official said Friday that Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas may be willing to postpone a move for upgraded UN status if the US were to offer a “clear objective” for negotiations, Israel Radio reported.According to the official, the objective must be a Palestinian state based on 1967 borders, with East Jerusalem as its capital.Other Palestinian sources also indicated that Ramallah would be willing to reconsider a unilateral push for nonmember state status, tentatively scheduled for late November, if real suggestions were offered for ending the Israeli occupation of Palestinian territories, according to the report.The Palestinians took the first step toward raising their status at the UN from an observer to a nonmember state Thursday by circulating a draft resolution to the 193 UN member states and asking for their support.A letter from the observer mission accompanying the draft resolution asks UN members to support “the enhancement of the status of Palestine in the United Nations General Assembly to be considered by the assembly at a date to be announced in the near future.” The draft also calls on the UN Security Council to approve a Palestinian petition for full UN membership, which was submitted last year.
There are no vetoes in the General Assembly and the resolution is almost certain to be approved by the world body, which is dominated by countries sympathetic to the Palestinian cause. Approval of the resolution would elevate the Palestinians to the same status as the Vatican. The draft resolution states that, to date, 132 nations have recognized “the State of Palestine.”Israel and the United States are on record opposing the move, saying the Palestinians should first negotiate their statehood with the Jewish state, not take unilateral action and sidestep talks.The upgraded status would add weight to Palestinian claims for a state in the West Bank, Gaza Strip and East Jerusalem, territories captured by Israel in the 1967 Mideast war. Israel pulled out of Gaza in 2005.The Palestinians also hope to use their upgraded status to join additional UN bodies, such as the International Criminal Court, where they could attempt to prosecute Israel.At the same time, they have expressed fear of financial and diplomatic retaliation.Following last year’s move by the Palestinians to join the UN cultural agency UNESCO, the United States withheld funds from the organization, which amount to 22 percent of its budget. The US also withheld money to the Palestinians, and the US Congress has threatened similar sanctions if the Palestinians proceed to improve their status at the UN again.
Israel also retaliated by accelerating settlement construction and withholding funds from the Palestinian government.

Yair Lapid: The PA Will Give Up Jerusalem

Yair Lapid argues that if Israel does not compromise on “right of return,” Jerusalem, the PA will give in.
By Maayana Miskin First Publish: 11/9/2012, 11:54 AM-INNEWS

Modern Jerusalem
Modern Jerusalem-Flash 90
If Israel does not compromise on the unity of Jerusalem, or on the so-called “right of return,” the Palestinian Authority will give up on both, political newcomer Yair Lapid, head of the Yesh Atid party, argued this week in a lecture at the Council for Peace and Security.A source present at the event told Haaretz that Lapid was asked, “Do you want 300,000 Palestinians living in the Arab neighborhoods of Jerusalem to become Israelis?” Lapid replied, “There are Arabs living in the state of Israel and we need to learn to live with them.”He then expressed confidence that Israel can reach a diplomatic agreement with the PA without dividing Jerusalem or giving up sovereignty in Arab neighborhoods of the city. The PA demands all neighborhoods of the capital that lie east of the 1949 armistice line as the capital city of a new Arab state.“Why did Abu Mazen [PA Chairman Mahmoud Abbas – ed.] suddenly say he was giving up the ‘right of return?’” Lapid asked. “Abu Mazen gave up on the right of return because the Palestinians recognized that there was complete consensus among the Israeli public on this matter, so they moved on to the next matter.”Similarly, he continued, “There is no compromise on Jerusalem. If the Palestinians understand that without giving in on Jerusalem they will not get a state, they will step down from this demand, too.”After telling Israeli media that he does not demand the right to live in the Israeli city of Tzfat, Abbas told Arab-language media that “the right of return is holy” and insisted that his remarks to Israel’s Channel 2 news had been taken out of context. His spokesman confirmed that the PA chairman has not given up the demand that millions of foreign Arab descendants of Arabs who fled pre-state Israel be allowed to immigrate to Israel.

The World be Damned

November 9, 2012, 3:05 pm 3 By Emanuel Shahaf _THE TIMES OF ISRAEL

Present policies as pursued by the government of Israel are leading the country into a dead end situation where Israel will have to deal all on her own with a considerable range of problems in the Middle East.        A systematic effort to disengage from any serious peacemaking efforts vis-a-vis the Palestinians has left relations with the European Union, with minor exceptions, in shambles. Netanyahu is not exactly on speaking terms with German Chancellor Merkel and in one measly meeting has already managed to sour the relationship with the President of France Francois Hollande who has barely had time to take office. This after thoroughly ruining the relationship with Hollande’s predecessor, Sarkozy. The relationship with the British appears to be somewhat better, mostly since Netanyahu and Cameron haven’t met that often. Nevertheless, the two are not on the same page regarding Iran nor are they in agreement regarding Israel’s studied ignorance of the peace process. Needless to say, the relations with a newly elected US President Obama are, let’s be generous, on the iffy side and he is unlikely to make a push for peace in the Middle East involving an uncooperative Netanyahu, before having resolved some more pressing problems at home.
All this happens at a time where Israel needs all the help it can get not only to prevent Iran from going nuclear but also to deal with ever increasing regional instability caused by an Arab Spring trying to find its way. Egypt it looking how to solidify the democratic principles necessary to continue receiving US aid without giving up on Islamic ideals. Syria is at war with itself and there is no prognosis at this time. Jordan is boiling on a low flame and its long term stability is in question. Lebanon, once again, is at a junction from where the road downhill appears to be a likely option. The relationship with the only strategic ally in the area, Turkey, has been unceremoniously written off and the Foreign Ministry is now busy warming up relations with Greece and Bulgaria.While the Arab world around us is in turmoil Israel does absolutely nothing that could lower the flames like winding down the closure of the Gaza strip even further or starting serious negotiations with Abu Mazen. We are hunkering down in our bunker (“the villa in the jungle”), equipping ourselves with ever more sophisticated and expensive weapons systems and hope that eventually this will all blow over. At the same time Israel is maintaining de-facto control over 2.5 million Palestinians in the West Bank and has a major hold over the well-being of another 1.5 Million in the Gaza Strip. Despite Abu Mazen’s promise not to engage in another Intifada, he can hardly be held responsible should one break out nevertheless when nothing of consequence is done by Israel to prevent that from happening.Netanyahu’s policies are  highly illogical and dangerous. If, as he claims, the Iranian threat is all pervasive and another Holocaust is possible, why not do what is necessary to improve Israel’s relations with the West by compromising with the Palestinians ? A Prime Minister who does not know what to chose at such a critical time must be removed from office before he can do any more harm. On January 22nd the public will have the opportunity to do just that.