OK ITS DAY 2 AND WE WILL SEE A LITTLE LATER ON THIS MORNING IF A NEW
POPE HAS BEEN CROWNED POPE OF THE WORLD.OR WILL THE DISAPPOINTED
EXCITEMENT OCCURR AND BLACK SMOKE FLOODS FROM THE VATICAN CHIMNEY.CMON
CARDINALS GET THAT ROMAN ITALIAN POPE ELECTED.(MY GUESS) .WE NEED BIBLE
PROPHECY FULFILLED.SO THE VATICAN CAN PLAY IT FINAL ROLE IN FULFILLED
PROPHECY.
POPE FRANCIS INSTALLATION - MAR 19,13
http://israndjer.blogspot.ca/2013/03/stock-results-mar-1913.html
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ITS 6:43AM MAR 13,13 AND THE 2ND AND 3RD VOTING ROUNDS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED AT THE VATICAN.AND THE BLACK SMOKE IS BILLOWING FROM THE CHIMNEY AT THE VATICAN SAYING NO POPE HAS BEEN ELECTED IN THE MORNING DAY 2 OF THE CARDINAL VOTING SYSTEM.WE WILL NOW AWAIT 2 MORE AFTERNOON VOTES TO SEE IF THE NEXT POPE IS ELECTED.THE ANALYSTS ARE SAYING THIS WAS THE QUICKEST 2ND MORNING VOTE IN A LONG TIME.THEY ARE SPECULATING THAT THE NEXT VOTE MIGHT PRODUCE THE NEXT POPE AFTER THE 3 HOUR LUNCH BREAK.
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ITS 11:35AM MAR 13,13 WEDNESDAY.THE CARDINALS SHOULD BE ABOUT HALF WAY DONE THE 4TH VOTE TO SEE IF THE POPE IS ELECTED.IF THERE IS ANY SMOKE BETWEEN NOW AND 2PM.IT WILL HAVE TO BE WHITE.AS WE ARE ONLY IN THE 4TH OF THE 5 VOTES THAT WILL OCCUR AT THE END OF WEDNESDAY.NOW AT 11:37AM A SEAGULL IS CURRENTLY SITTING ON THE CHIMNEY WERE THE SMOKE COMES FROM.THE ANALYST WHO WAS JUST ON BEFORE A COMMERICIAL CAME ON SAID.WE ARE ON SEAGULL AND A SMOKE WATCH AT THE VATICAN NOW.I WONDER WHAT THIS MEANS.SEAGALLS EAT ANYTHING.MAYBE THIS MEANS THE VATICAN WILL PROSTITUTE ITSELF WITH EVERY OTHER CULT GOING INCLUDING ISLAM AND THE NEW AGE MOVEMENT TO PRODUCE THE ONE WORLD RELIGION AS PREDICTED BY THE BIBLE.
Caption: VATICAN CITY, VATICAN - MARCH 13: A seagull sits on the chimney on the roof of the Sistine Chapel during the second day of the conclave on March 13, 2013 in Vatican City, Vatican. Pope Benedict XVI's successor is being chosen by the College of Cardinals in Conclave in the Sistine Chapel. The 115 cardinal-electors, meeting in strict secrecy, will need to reach a two-thirds-plus-one vote majority to elect the 266th Pontiff. (Photo by Jeff J Mitchell/Getty Images)
THIS ISN'T THE FIRST TIME A SEAGULL HAS INTERFEARED WITH THE VATICAN.A WHILE BACK WHILE POPE BENEDICT 16TH SENT OUT A DOVE FROM THE VATICAN.A SEAGULL ATTACKED IT.THIS HAPPENED JUST BEFORE BENEDICT RESIGNED HIS POST.THEN ON THE VERY DAY THE POPE RESIGNED HIS POST.THE VATICAN WAS STRUCK NOT ONE BUT TWICE BY LIGHTNING AT 6PM FEB 11,13 WHEN BENEDICT RESIGNED.AND NOW THIS MORNING AT 11:37AM EST I WAS WATCHING TV AND THIS SEAGULL LANDS ON THE CHIMNEY AT THE VATICAN WERE THE SMOKE COMES OUT TO SEE IF THE NEW POPE IS ELECTED YET.THESE ARE NOT ACCIDENTAL HAPPENINGS.PROPHECY IS BEING FULFILLED.AND NOW OBAMA IS TELLING THE MEDIA HE WANTS AN AMERICAN AS THE NEXT POPE.BUT OBAMA DOES EVERYTHING AGAINST THE CHURCH POSSIBLE,BUT HE STILL CLAIMES HE WANTS AN AMERICAN POPE.AND ONE LAST THING YET.DENNIS RODMAN WANTS TO MEET THE NEW POPE.HE WENT TO NORTH KOREA AND HAS A NEW PAL.NOW HE WANTS TO MEET THE NEXT POPE.WHATS NEXT FOR RODMAN.HE WILL WANT TO NEGOTIATE WITH NETANYAHU ON THE PEACE TREATY.
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ITS 2:07PM WEDNESDAY MARCH 13,2013.AND WE HAVE A NEW POPE.IN ABOUT 45 MINUTES WILL WILL FIND OUT WHO HE IS.THE 266TH POPE WILL BE REVEALED TO THE WORLD SHORTLY AS THE BELLS ARE RINGING IN THE VATICAN AS THOUSANDS HAVE BEEN WAITING TO SEE THE SMOKE COLOUR.WE HAVE OUR NEW POPE SAYS THE 1.2 BILLION CATHOLICS FROM AROUND THE WORLD.WE WILL SEE IF ITS AN ITALIAN OR EUROPEAN LIKE THE BIBLE SAYS.
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ITS 2:50PM WEDNESDAY MARCH 13,2013.AND WE ARE WAITING PATIENTLY TO SEE AND HEAR THE NAME OF THE 266TH POPE IN ITS HISTORY.THE 112TH AND FINAL POPE IN MALACHIS PROPHECY.THE 250,000 PEOPLE AT THE VATICAN ARE CHEERING - VIVA LI PAPA (LONG LIVE THE POPE).AS THEY WAIT FOR THE ANNOUNCEMENT OF THE NEW POPE.THE 2 NAMES FLOATING AROUND THE MOST ARE ANGELO SCOLA OF ITALY AND MARC OUELLET OF CANADA AS WELL AS ONE FROM LATIN AMERICA AND ASIA.
ITS 3:03PM AND THE POPES TWITTER ACCOUNT HAS BEEN ACTIVATED ON ORDERS FROM THE NEW POPE.HE WILL START WITH OR 1 MILLION FRIENDS ON HIS TWITTER ACCOUNT.THERE ARE 10 CARDINALS THAT USE THE TWITTER DAILY.SO ODDS ARE THE NEW POPE WILL BE ONE OF THESE 10 TWITTER USERS.
ITS 3:06PM WED MAR 13,2013 AND THE ANNOUNCEMENT BY JEAN-LOUIS IS ABOUT TO BE MADE WHO THE NEW POPE IS-AND WHAT NAME THIS POPE WILL TAKE.HE WILL SAY THE NAME IN ITALIAN FIRST AS THAT IS THE TRADITION.ONLY 28 POPES IN HISTORY HAVE BEEN 58 YEARS OLD OR YOUNGER WHEN ELECTED POPE.THE MAJORITY HAVE BEEN IN THEIR 60 OR 70'S OR 80'S.
ITS 3:07 AND THE LIGHTS ARE ON TO ANNOUNCE THE NEW POPE BY JEAN-LOUIS TAURAN .BUT HES TEASING US.HES ONLY PEEKING OVER THE BALCONY BUT NOT ANNOUNCING YET.ITS 3:13 PM AND THE ANOOUNCEMENT IS FINALLY TO BE MADE.THE NEW POPE OF THE WORLD WILL BE - FROM ARGENTINA-JORGE MARIO BERGOGLIO (LATIN AMERICAN) - AND THE NAME HE IS TAKING AS POPE IS - POPE FRANCIS 1ST.(1ST JESUIT FRANCIS XAVIOUR)(A REFORMER).
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POPE FRANCIS 1 SPEAKS SPANISH AND HE DOES HAVE A TIGHT CONNECTION TO ITALY.HIS DAD WAS AN ITALIAN RAILWAY WORKER.ITS SAID ALL THE ROMANS OF THE CARDINALS VOTED FOR JORGE (GEORGE) BERGOGLIO AS POPE AS A RESULT OF HIS TIGHT CONNECTION TO ITALY.HOWS THIS FOR A PROPHETIC DATE.POPE FRANCIS 1 ELECTED POPE ON MAR 13,2013 AT 3:13PM. HE HAS SPANISH CONNECTIONS AND ITALY CONNECTIONS.HE IS FROM THE REVIVED ROMAN EMPIRE IN HIS FAMILY HISTORY.AND BEING A JESUIT HE WILL BE A REFORMER AND WANT THE VATICAN AN ALL INCLUSIVE CHURCH OF THE WHOLE WORLD.
POPE FRANCIS-POPE OF THE WORLD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8SQ23T6yO0&list=UUxshhzR907v2w6DjICyAgLQ&index=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KAPyHIrnhQ&list=UUxshhzR907v2w6DjICyAgLQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3EvvI5GgRc&list=UUxshhzR907v2w6DjICyAgLQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8dQ2ZOnfOU&list=UUxshhzR907v2w6DjICyAgLQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZKZCwA75MA&list=UUxshhzR907v2w6DjICyAgLQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hS4e5L-EEw&list=UUxshhzR907v2w6DjICyAgLQ
POPE FRANCIS 1 TAKES FRANCIS FROM THESE 2 IN HISTORY
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Xavier
http://www.catholic.org/saints/saint.php?saint_id=50
BERGOGLIO, S.J., Jorge Mario
(1936-ELECTED POPE MAR 13,13-3:13PM)
Birth. December 17, 1936, Buenos Aires, Argentina.
He was one of the five children born to an Italian railway worker and
his housewife.
Education. Obtained the diploma of technician in chemistry. Entered Seminary of Villa Devoto, Buenos Aires. Joined the Society of Jesus, March 11, 1958. Novitiate in Chile (humanities); Colegio Máximo San José, San Miguel, Buenos Aires (licentiate in philosophy); professor of literature and psychology in Colegio de la Inmaculada, Santa Fe, and in Colegio del Salvador, Buenos Aires; Colegio Máximo de San Miguel, (theology). Besides his native Spanish, he also speaks Italian and German.
Priesthood. Ordained, December 13, 1969 by Ramón José Castellano, titular archbishop of Giomnio. Further studies, 1969-1971; third probation, Alcalá de Henares, Spain, 1971-1972; took the final vows, April 22, 1973. Master of novices, Villa Barilari, San Miguel, 1972-1973; professor in the Theological Faculty; consultor of the Jesuit province and rector of the Colegio Máximo. Elected provincial of Argentina, July 31, 1973. Spent some time in Germany. On his return, assigned to Colegio del Salvador, Córdoba and then, spiritual director and confessor, Jesuit Church, Córdoba. Rector of Colegio Máximo de San Miguel and of its Philosophical and Theological Faculties, 1980-1986.
Episcopate. Elected titular bishop of Auca and appointed auxiliary of Buenos Aires, May 20, 1992. Consecrated, June 27, 1992, cathedral of Buenos Aires, by Cardinal Antonio Quarracino, archbishop of Buenos Aires, assisted by Emilio Ogñénovich, bishop of Mercedes-Luján, and by Ubaldo Calabresi, titular archbishop of Fondi, nuncio in Argentina. His episcopal motto is Miserando atque eligendo. Attended the Ninth Ordinary Assembly of the Synod of Bishops, Vatican City, October 2 to 29, 1994. Promoted to archbishop coadjutor of Buenos Aires, June 3, 1997. Attended the Special Assembly for America of the Synod of Bishops, Vatican City, November 16 to December 12, 1997. Succeeded to the metropolitan see of Buenos Aires, February 28, 1998. Ordinary for the faithful of the Oriental rite in Argentina without an ordinary for their own rite, November 30, 1998. Grand chancellor of the Catholic University of Argentina. Second vice-president of the Episcopal Conference of Argentina.
Cardinalate. Created cardinal priest in the consistory of February 21, 2001; received the red biretta and the title of S. Roberto Bellarmino, February 21, 2001. Attended the Tenth Ordinary Assembly of the Synod of Bishops, Vatican City, September 30 to October 27, 2001; relator general adjunct. Participated in the conclave of April 18 to 19, 2005, which elected Pope Benedict XVI. Attended the Eleventh General Ordinary Assembly of the Synod of Bishops, Vatican City, October 2 to 23, 2005. On November 9, 2005, he was elected president of the Episcopal Conference of Argentina for the triennium of 2005-2008; reelected for the triennium 2008-2011 on Novembr 11, 2008. Participated in the 5th General Conference of the Latin American Episcopate that took place from May 13 to 31, 2007, in Aparecida, Brazil. Named member of the Pontifical Commission for Latin America on February 23, 2013.
Papacy. Elected pope on March 13, 2013. Took the name Francis.
Links. Photograph and biography, in Spanish, Agencia Informativa Católica Argentina (AICA); and his arms, Araldica Vaticana.
COAT OF ARMS OF POPE FRANCIS 1ST-1ST JESUIT EVER TO HOLD OFFICE OF POPE
LIVE BROADCAST OF SECOND DAY OF VOTING
20:23 Francis I tells faithful: "My felow cardinals went half way across the world to look for the new Pope"
20:12 HABEMUS PAPAM! THE NEW POPE OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IS JORGE MARIO BERGOGLIO
19:53 Straight after the voting result was announced, the Cardinal Dean Giambattista Re addressed the cardinal who has just been elected Pope, asking the question: "Do you accept your canonical election as Supreme Pontiff?" The ballots were then burnt and the white smoke released from the Sistine Chapel chimney, Vatican Radio reports on its website.
The new Pope enters the so-called "weeping room" where he is clothed in the distinctive white vestments of the Pope. A short prayer ceremony follows, with a reading from the Gospel, for example: "You are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church".
19:43 The Swiss Guards, who are responsible for the safety of the Pope, are all lined up St. Peter's Square with the white and yellow Vatican City flag at the front of the line up. Their entrance to St. Peter's Square was accompanied by teh Vatican musical band.
19:42 New Pope is being dressed in the papal robes
19:23 Cameras, smart phones and tablets are pointed at the Loggia balcony on St. Peter's Basilica, waiting for the newly-elect Pope to appear.
19:16 The 266th successor of St. Peter has been elected and big puffs of white smoke are flowing out of the Sistine Chapel chimney. The bells are ringing in celebration, in St. Peter’s Basilica. The square has been packed since this afternoon. The atmosphere is jubilant.
19:11 The crowds in St. Peter's Square are rejoicing at the news. It's cheering and photos galore!
11:40 (approx.) BLACK SMOKE AGAIN - NO POPE YET. Voting continues
11.33 a.m No smoke from the chimney of the Sistine Chapel, which suggests that the first round of today has not led to the election of the pope.In the morning you have two votes, and if the smoke is black is made at the end of the two ballots. In the case of election to the first round of voting, smoked, white, takes place after the first ballot. It is likely at this point the third vote.
9.44 a.m. There is no waiting in St. Peter's Square for the second smoke from the chimney of the Sistine Chapel. The Cardinals, in fact, after breakfast in Santa Marta, are returning in the Sistine Chapel for the second vote. Two votes in the morning, two more will follow in the afternoon. In St. Peter's Square, despite the rain, some pilgrim is already pending with the nose of smoke.
![[Translate to English:] John Olorunfemi Onaiyekan](https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/blogger_img_proxy/AEn0k_tUu-Z67Fln50T9cR68KXXgJ5dfDD-vjHdBcKiJkmSsZseezyXAQ7AH1_Jas2itA0xWzIDLt2PnSeSrYXao5Bo6z9RzYrxbbVmgDLQIdhSiXMo64AwC2p5YpbVwvywj_9_6lQ=s0-d "[Translate to English:] John Olorunfemi Onaiyekan")
Cardinal John Olorunfemi Onaiyekan, 69, archbishop of Abuja, is former President of the Catholic Bishops Conference of Nigeria, and of the country’s Christian Association. This friendly, intellectual man is a leading figure in the African Church, a strong advocate of non-violence, a promoter of peace, dialogue and cooperation between Christians and Muslims. Created cardinal by Pope Benedict last November, he enters the conclave with 10 other African cardinals to elect the new pope.
You are going to enter the conclave soon, what qualities are you looking for in the new pope?
Let me speak very frankly. My understanding of the papacy and particularly of this special process – the conclave, and my faith feeling is that the cardinals enter the conclave with the Holy Spirit and with the Mother of Jesus, and then they will be led to identify whom God has chosen. I’m not looking at it in terms of we are going into choose somebody, but rather we are going in there to discover God’s will for his Church. If we take it from there, the question of what kind of pope we are looking for just doesn’t arise.I believe that whoever emerges in the election, from the moment he has agreed he becomes pope from that point on he is the Holy Father. Whatever his name was, whatever his nation was and, of course, whatever his color is doesn’t matter anymore.
Will age be an important factor in the choice of pope, given that Benedict XVI resigned because he said he did not have the physical and mental energy for the job?
For the job as he saw it. Maybe there could be another pope who would have the same bodily weakness as he and still feel that he is doing the job well enough, but Benedict was himself, he was the kind of pope that didn’t want to sit there dressed in papal clothing and let the other people do the work for him. He’s not the kind of person who wants to do that, and therefore he has taken advantage of the previsions of Canon Law.
Many cardinals say they’d like a holy man, a man who can govern, a pastor and so on. Don’t you have any similar thoughts? People say the pope should be a saint, a good communicator, a good administrator, a financier and so on, and you begin to ask yourself, who is in this world who can have all these qualities? The fact is each pope has his own particular qualities. The only idea I have is this: Whoever is elected as pope, from that point on the rest of the Church will follow him. I am not going there with somebody in mind whom I have to choose.
So you haven’t a clear candidate in your mind?
No. I believe the Holy Spirit will guide us.
Do your fellow African cardinals feel like you?
For me several of them are eligible (to be pope). I certainly am not excluding my African brothers. I don’t share the view that maybe it’s time to elect an Italian once again or maybe we should choose a South American, or may we should have an African pope. These are mere human speculations; the next pope can come from anywhere.
Could he even come from the United States of America?
If he comes from there he will still be pope, he will no longer be an American. Though in the world out there that kind of job is usually not taken by the big powers, and so the Secretary General of the UN is taken from a small country. In other words there’s no reason why anybody cannot become pope. Obviously some people are known and some are not known. I believe that God can bring us somebody that we don’t even think about. I am going in there with the mentality that I am going in there that is a holy duty that I have to perform, and that task is not given to everybody. I am going in there because God calls me to do it, and therefore I am going to do what God wants me to do.
You come from Nigeria and the whole question of relations between Christianity and Islam is a big issue, would you like to see a pope who is particularly sensitive to this?
I don’t think anybody can be a pope and ignore Islam. In a way Islam has almost one billion members, and is the next biggest religion after Christianity, and its presence is also growing more recently in Europe and America, so you cannot ignore it. But the pope will have to relate to other religions too. The Pope is the pope for all. Therefore, the concerns of the Catholic Church and of the world in every corner of the globe are his concerns too.
Many say the question of evangelization is a key factor in what you are looking for in the pope
That is what the Church is for: evangelization. I would say since the first African synod in 1994 this question of the evangelizing mission of the Church in Africa has become central.
The Pope is also pope of the central government of the Catholic Church, the Holy See, the Vatican, and we’ve seen many problems, such as Vatileaks, emerge in recent times. Have they impacted in any way in Africa?
I wouldn’t say they have impacted that much, expect the press, radio and TV have reported them and people have just wondered what’s happening there in the Vatican? In my own Church they haven’t impacted that much. The central office is like the engine room in a ship, you know it’s better not go down there. In the central office of every big organization, and the Church is a very big organization, you find everything that is in any human organization - good people, not so good people, brilliant people, careerists and those who work with a sense of mission. You get all that. It’s not a new thing.
Can you see yourself electing a man over 75?
If a man of 75 comes up as the best person, why not? The age bracket for all of us cardinal electors is 80. If a 75 year old becomes pope, he can generally have 10 years, or 15 years, and is that not long enough for a pope? The pontificate of John Paul II which was 25 years is not normal in the history of the Church.The average term a pope’s reign is about 10 years or maybe less. In past centuries popes died earlier, but now the question we are facing is how long do we keep a pope on the throne after the age of 90? Is it really what the Church needs? I would not lose my faith in the Church if a future pope came out with a Motu Proprio setting age limits for Popes too, like you have already for bishops and cardinal electors.
Can you see the conclave electing a really young pope? One candidate from Asia is 55
If we do that, then we have to prepare for a long reign unless something happens to him, such as someone shoots them or poisons them or so on. Look at Peter, he was executed in this city, and one should not be surprised if his successors are attacked.
Do you think it is important for the pope to travel like John Paul II did, and Benedict XVI to a certain extent?
Yes. In these days people cannot just sit in Rome, read reports and wait for ‘ad limina’ visits. It is good that he goes out there to visit people. You see he is the universal pastor. Now it is possible for the pope to take off from Rome today and arrive almost anywhere in the world in 24 hours.The question of collegiality has kept coming up since the Second Vatican Council. Do you hope, expect the new pope to develop this a little more, to involve the bishops somewhat more?A pope works within a tradition, and one of the elements of the tradition is the teachings of the Councils, so whoever is pope is committed to the main outline of the Second Vatican Council and collegiality is a major block in that tradition.So one would expect that the next pope would continue what has been done up to now. He may exercise collegiality in some new ways, in some innovative ways, we don’t know. There’s plenty of room for development here
Do you expect a long conclave?
Well, if we do four ballots every day, by the time we have voted ten times I think we should know where we are going. Eventually we will find somebody to hang this burden on, somebody to accept this load. He then becomes a prisoner for Christ’s sake.
ALL THE VATICAN/ POPE NEWS STORIES I HAVE DONE SINCE FEB 11,13 WHEN THE POPE BENEDICT RESIGNED.
http://israndjer.blogspot.ca/2013/02/stock-results-feb-112013.html
HOW THE CONCLAVE WILL WORK - HOW THE VOTING WORKS
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-21631398
http://israndjer.blogspot.ca/2013/03/day-2-of-voting-for-next-pope.html
POPE FRANCIS INSTALLATION - MAR 19,13
http://israndjer.blogspot.ca/2013/03/stock-results-mar-1913.html
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ITS 6:43AM MAR 13,13 AND THE 2ND AND 3RD VOTING ROUNDS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED AT THE VATICAN.AND THE BLACK SMOKE IS BILLOWING FROM THE CHIMNEY AT THE VATICAN SAYING NO POPE HAS BEEN ELECTED IN THE MORNING DAY 2 OF THE CARDINAL VOTING SYSTEM.WE WILL NOW AWAIT 2 MORE AFTERNOON VOTES TO SEE IF THE NEXT POPE IS ELECTED.THE ANALYSTS ARE SAYING THIS WAS THE QUICKEST 2ND MORNING VOTE IN A LONG TIME.THEY ARE SPECULATING THAT THE NEXT VOTE MIGHT PRODUCE THE NEXT POPE AFTER THE 3 HOUR LUNCH BREAK.
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Vatican Insider Staff
LIVE BROADCAST OF SECOND DAY OF VOTING 11:40 (approx.) BLACK SMOKE AGAIN - NO POPE YET 11.33 a.m No smoke from the chimney of the Sistine Chapel, which suggests that the first round of today has not led to the election of the pope.In the morning you have two votes, and if the smoke is black is made at the end of the two ballots. In the case of election to the first round of voting,...ITS 11:35AM MAR 13,13 WEDNESDAY.THE CARDINALS SHOULD BE ABOUT HALF WAY DONE THE 4TH VOTE TO SEE IF THE POPE IS ELECTED.IF THERE IS ANY SMOKE BETWEEN NOW AND 2PM.IT WILL HAVE TO BE WHITE.AS WE ARE ONLY IN THE 4TH OF THE 5 VOTES THAT WILL OCCUR AT THE END OF WEDNESDAY.NOW AT 11:37AM A SEAGULL IS CURRENTLY SITTING ON THE CHIMNEY WERE THE SMOKE COMES FROM.THE ANALYST WHO WAS JUST ON BEFORE A COMMERICIAL CAME ON SAID.WE ARE ON SEAGULL AND A SMOKE WATCH AT THE VATICAN NOW.I WONDER WHAT THIS MEANS.SEAGALLS EAT ANYTHING.MAYBE THIS MEANS THE VATICAN WILL PROSTITUTE ITSELF WITH EVERY OTHER CULT GOING INCLUDING ISLAM AND THE NEW AGE MOVEMENT TO PRODUCE THE ONE WORLD RELIGION AS PREDICTED BY THE BIBLE.
Caption: VATICAN CITY, VATICAN - MARCH 13: A seagull sits on the chimney on the roof of the Sistine Chapel during the second day of the conclave on March 13, 2013 in Vatican City, Vatican. Pope Benedict XVI's successor is being chosen by the College of Cardinals in Conclave in the Sistine Chapel. The 115 cardinal-electors, meeting in strict secrecy, will need to reach a two-thirds-plus-one vote majority to elect the 266th Pontiff. (Photo by Jeff J Mitchell/Getty Images)
THIS ISN'T THE FIRST TIME A SEAGULL HAS INTERFEARED WITH THE VATICAN.A WHILE BACK WHILE POPE BENEDICT 16TH SENT OUT A DOVE FROM THE VATICAN.A SEAGULL ATTACKED IT.THIS HAPPENED JUST BEFORE BENEDICT RESIGNED HIS POST.THEN ON THE VERY DAY THE POPE RESIGNED HIS POST.THE VATICAN WAS STRUCK NOT ONE BUT TWICE BY LIGHTNING AT 6PM FEB 11,13 WHEN BENEDICT RESIGNED.AND NOW THIS MORNING AT 11:37AM EST I WAS WATCHING TV AND THIS SEAGULL LANDS ON THE CHIMNEY AT THE VATICAN WERE THE SMOKE COMES OUT TO SEE IF THE NEW POPE IS ELECTED YET.THESE ARE NOT ACCIDENTAL HAPPENINGS.PROPHECY IS BEING FULFILLED.AND NOW OBAMA IS TELLING THE MEDIA HE WANTS AN AMERICAN AS THE NEXT POPE.BUT OBAMA DOES EVERYTHING AGAINST THE CHURCH POSSIBLE,BUT HE STILL CLAIMES HE WANTS AN AMERICAN POPE.AND ONE LAST THING YET.DENNIS RODMAN WANTS TO MEET THE NEW POPE.HE WENT TO NORTH KOREA AND HAS A NEW PAL.NOW HE WANTS TO MEET THE NEXT POPE.WHATS NEXT FOR RODMAN.HE WILL WANT TO NEGOTIATE WITH NETANYAHU ON THE PEACE TREATY.
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ITS 2:07PM WEDNESDAY MARCH 13,2013.AND WE HAVE A NEW POPE.IN ABOUT 45 MINUTES WILL WILL FIND OUT WHO HE IS.THE 266TH POPE WILL BE REVEALED TO THE WORLD SHORTLY AS THE BELLS ARE RINGING IN THE VATICAN AS THOUSANDS HAVE BEEN WAITING TO SEE THE SMOKE COLOUR.WE HAVE OUR NEW POPE SAYS THE 1.2 BILLION CATHOLICS FROM AROUND THE WORLD.WE WILL SEE IF ITS AN ITALIAN OR EUROPEAN LIKE THE BIBLE SAYS.
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ITS 2:50PM WEDNESDAY MARCH 13,2013.AND WE ARE WAITING PATIENTLY TO SEE AND HEAR THE NAME OF THE 266TH POPE IN ITS HISTORY.THE 112TH AND FINAL POPE IN MALACHIS PROPHECY.THE 250,000 PEOPLE AT THE VATICAN ARE CHEERING - VIVA LI PAPA (LONG LIVE THE POPE).AS THEY WAIT FOR THE ANNOUNCEMENT OF THE NEW POPE.THE 2 NAMES FLOATING AROUND THE MOST ARE ANGELO SCOLA OF ITALY AND MARC OUELLET OF CANADA AS WELL AS ONE FROM LATIN AMERICA AND ASIA.
ITS 3:03PM AND THE POPES TWITTER ACCOUNT HAS BEEN ACTIVATED ON ORDERS FROM THE NEW POPE.HE WILL START WITH OR 1 MILLION FRIENDS ON HIS TWITTER ACCOUNT.THERE ARE 10 CARDINALS THAT USE THE TWITTER DAILY.SO ODDS ARE THE NEW POPE WILL BE ONE OF THESE 10 TWITTER USERS.
ITS 3:06PM WED MAR 13,2013 AND THE ANNOUNCEMENT BY JEAN-LOUIS IS ABOUT TO BE MADE WHO THE NEW POPE IS-AND WHAT NAME THIS POPE WILL TAKE.HE WILL SAY THE NAME IN ITALIAN FIRST AS THAT IS THE TRADITION.ONLY 28 POPES IN HISTORY HAVE BEEN 58 YEARS OLD OR YOUNGER WHEN ELECTED POPE.THE MAJORITY HAVE BEEN IN THEIR 60 OR 70'S OR 80'S.
ITS 3:07 AND THE LIGHTS ARE ON TO ANNOUNCE THE NEW POPE BY JEAN-LOUIS TAURAN .BUT HES TEASING US.HES ONLY PEEKING OVER THE BALCONY BUT NOT ANNOUNCING YET.ITS 3:13 PM AND THE ANOOUNCEMENT IS FINALLY TO BE MADE.THE NEW POPE OF THE WORLD WILL BE - FROM ARGENTINA-JORGE MARIO BERGOGLIO (LATIN AMERICAN) - AND THE NAME HE IS TAKING AS POPE IS - POPE FRANCIS 1ST.(1ST JESUIT FRANCIS XAVIOUR)(A REFORMER).
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POPE FRANCIS 1 SPEAKS SPANISH AND HE DOES HAVE A TIGHT CONNECTION TO ITALY.HIS DAD WAS AN ITALIAN RAILWAY WORKER.ITS SAID ALL THE ROMANS OF THE CARDINALS VOTED FOR JORGE (GEORGE) BERGOGLIO AS POPE AS A RESULT OF HIS TIGHT CONNECTION TO ITALY.HOWS THIS FOR A PROPHETIC DATE.POPE FRANCIS 1 ELECTED POPE ON MAR 13,2013 AT 3:13PM. HE HAS SPANISH CONNECTIONS AND ITALY CONNECTIONS.HE IS FROM THE REVIVED ROMAN EMPIRE IN HIS FAMILY HISTORY.AND BEING A JESUIT HE WILL BE A REFORMER AND WANT THE VATICAN AN ALL INCLUSIVE CHURCH OF THE WHOLE WORLD.
POPE FRANCIS-POPE OF THE WORLD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8SQ23T6yO0&list=UUxshhzR907v2w6DjICyAgLQ&index=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KAPyHIrnhQ&list=UUxshhzR907v2w6DjICyAgLQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3EvvI5GgRc&list=UUxshhzR907v2w6DjICyAgLQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8dQ2ZOnfOU&list=UUxshhzR907v2w6DjICyAgLQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZKZCwA75MA&list=UUxshhzR907v2w6DjICyAgLQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hS4e5L-EEw&list=UUxshhzR907v2w6DjICyAgLQ
POPE FRANCIS 1 TAKES FRANCIS FROM THESE 2 IN HISTORY
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http://www.catholic.org/saints/saint.php?saint_id=50
(1936-ELECTED POPE MAR 13,13-3:13PM)
Education. Obtained the diploma of technician in chemistry. Entered Seminary of Villa Devoto, Buenos Aires. Joined the Society of Jesus, March 11, 1958. Novitiate in Chile (humanities); Colegio Máximo San José, San Miguel, Buenos Aires (licentiate in philosophy); professor of literature and psychology in Colegio de la Inmaculada, Santa Fe, and in Colegio del Salvador, Buenos Aires; Colegio Máximo de San Miguel, (theology). Besides his native Spanish, he also speaks Italian and German.
Priesthood. Ordained, December 13, 1969 by Ramón José Castellano, titular archbishop of Giomnio. Further studies, 1969-1971; third probation, Alcalá de Henares, Spain, 1971-1972; took the final vows, April 22, 1973. Master of novices, Villa Barilari, San Miguel, 1972-1973; professor in the Theological Faculty; consultor of the Jesuit province and rector of the Colegio Máximo. Elected provincial of Argentina, July 31, 1973. Spent some time in Germany. On his return, assigned to Colegio del Salvador, Córdoba and then, spiritual director and confessor, Jesuit Church, Córdoba. Rector of Colegio Máximo de San Miguel and of its Philosophical and Theological Faculties, 1980-1986.
Episcopate. Elected titular bishop of Auca and appointed auxiliary of Buenos Aires, May 20, 1992. Consecrated, June 27, 1992, cathedral of Buenos Aires, by Cardinal Antonio Quarracino, archbishop of Buenos Aires, assisted by Emilio Ogñénovich, bishop of Mercedes-Luján, and by Ubaldo Calabresi, titular archbishop of Fondi, nuncio in Argentina. His episcopal motto is Miserando atque eligendo. Attended the Ninth Ordinary Assembly of the Synod of Bishops, Vatican City, October 2 to 29, 1994. Promoted to archbishop coadjutor of Buenos Aires, June 3, 1997. Attended the Special Assembly for America of the Synod of Bishops, Vatican City, November 16 to December 12, 1997. Succeeded to the metropolitan see of Buenos Aires, February 28, 1998. Ordinary for the faithful of the Oriental rite in Argentina without an ordinary for their own rite, November 30, 1998. Grand chancellor of the Catholic University of Argentina. Second vice-president of the Episcopal Conference of Argentina.
Cardinalate. Created cardinal priest in the consistory of February 21, 2001; received the red biretta and the title of S. Roberto Bellarmino, February 21, 2001. Attended the Tenth Ordinary Assembly of the Synod of Bishops, Vatican City, September 30 to October 27, 2001; relator general adjunct. Participated in the conclave of April 18 to 19, 2005, which elected Pope Benedict XVI. Attended the Eleventh General Ordinary Assembly of the Synod of Bishops, Vatican City, October 2 to 23, 2005. On November 9, 2005, he was elected president of the Episcopal Conference of Argentina for the triennium of 2005-2008; reelected for the triennium 2008-2011 on Novembr 11, 2008. Participated in the 5th General Conference of the Latin American Episcopate that took place from May 13 to 31, 2007, in Aparecida, Brazil. Named member of the Pontifical Commission for Latin America on February 23, 2013.
Papacy. Elected pope on March 13, 2013. Took the name Francis.
Links. Photograph and biography, in Spanish, Agencia Informativa Católica Argentina (AICA); and his arms, Araldica Vaticana.
COAT OF ARMS OF POPE FRANCIS 1ST-1ST JESUIT EVER TO HOLD OFFICE OF POPE
Vatican Insider
13/03/2013
THE NEW POPE OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IS JORGE MARIO BERGOGLIO: FRANCIS I
Cardinal electors have chosen the new successor of Peter
20:23 Francis I tells faithful: "My felow cardinals went half way across the world to look for the new Pope"
20:12 HABEMUS PAPAM! THE NEW POPE OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IS JORGE MARIO BERGOGLIO
19:53 Straight after the voting result was announced, the Cardinal Dean Giambattista Re addressed the cardinal who has just been elected Pope, asking the question: "Do you accept your canonical election as Supreme Pontiff?" The ballots were then burnt and the white smoke released from the Sistine Chapel chimney, Vatican Radio reports on its website.
The new Pope enters the so-called "weeping room" where he is clothed in the distinctive white vestments of the Pope. A short prayer ceremony follows, with a reading from the Gospel, for example: "You are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church".
19:43 The Swiss Guards, who are responsible for the safety of the Pope, are all lined up St. Peter's Square with the white and yellow Vatican City flag at the front of the line up. Their entrance to St. Peter's Square was accompanied by teh Vatican musical band.
19:42 New Pope is being dressed in the papal robes
19:23 Cameras, smart phones and tablets are pointed at the Loggia balcony on St. Peter's Basilica, waiting for the newly-elect Pope to appear.
19:16 The 266th successor of St. Peter has been elected and big puffs of white smoke are flowing out of the Sistine Chapel chimney. The bells are ringing in celebration, in St. Peter’s Basilica. The square has been packed since this afternoon. The atmosphere is jubilant.
19:11 The crowds in St. Peter's Square are rejoicing at the news. It's cheering and photos galore!
13/03/2013 VATICAN INSIDER
WHITE SMOKE:CATHOLIC CHURCH HAS A NEW POPE
Vatican Insider Staff (Vatican Insider)
LIVE BROADCAST OF SECOND DAY OF VOTING19:11 The crowds in St.
Peter's Square are rejoicing at the news. It's cheering and photos
galore!
19:06 WHITE SMOKE! POPE CHOSEN
18:21 No smoke yet. 17:50, which was the time Joseph Ratzinger was
elected Pope in the 2005 Conclave, ...
Vatican Insider
13/03/2013
WHITE SMOKE:CATHOLIC CHURCH HAS A NEW POPE
LIVE BROADCAST OF SECOND DAY OF VOTING
19:11 The crowds in St. Peter's Square are rejoicing at the news. It's cheering and photos galore!
19:06 WHITE SMOKE! POPE CHOSEN
18:21 No smoke yet. 17:50, which was the time Joseph Ratzinger was elected Pope in the 2005 Conclave, has passed. Presumably, then, cardinals have not reached a consensus in the fourth scrutiny. The wait is now on for the fifth voting session which is expected to be held at around 19:30 CET. The eyes of the world are fixed on the Sistine Chapel chimney.
18:11 The Sistine Chapel seagull's on Twitter. The feathery fellow who has been flying around the Sistine Chapel chimney is tweeting from the @SistineSeagull account. The seagull, whose profile reads: "Hanging out at Conclave. Loving Life. And Cheetos", has 4,156 followers alread.
17:50The Conclave voting process follows strict rules. These state that four scrutinies are to take place a day, until the Pope is elected: two in the morning and two in the afternoon, with only two black smoke signals (fumate) being sent out a day: one at the end of the second morning vote (around 11:45) and one at the end of the second afternoon vote (at around 18:45). If a new Pope is elected, white smoke could appear either: at 11:45; at 19:00 (approx.); immediately after the first morning scrutiny (at around 10:45) OR immediately after the first afternoon scrutiny (17:45).
17:18 Cardinal electors are in the middle of the fourth voting session for the election of the new Pope. Cardinals were supposed to leave Santa Marta House for the Apostolic Palace at 16:00. It is their choice whether they get there on foot or by bus, though it’s likely they will opt for the bus given the rain. According to some predictions scrutinies should be over by about 17:50. It would be a huge coincidence if the smoke was white as Ratzinger was elected Pope at this time in 2005.
If the result of the ballot is negative, cardinals will proceed straight to the second scheduled afternoon voting session. If this is the case, there should be another smoke signal sometime within the next hour. A smoke signal will be sent out whether a Pope has been elected or not: Cardinals will wait until the end of the second afternoon voting session to send out either a white or a black smoke signal.
16:23 Cardinal Schoenborn: "The Church does not need a general manager, but a man of faith"
14:13 American cardinal, Roger Mahony, who has been accused of covering up sex abuse cases in the U.S., "has every right to take part in the Conclave," Fr. Lombardi said, in response to the stance taken by the association of victims of paedophile priests' (SNAP). "I know how SNAP goes about making its accusations and how it goes about announcing them, taking advantage of a given moment," he added.
14:12 Joseph Ratzinger will not attend the first Mass to celebrate the election of the new Pope, Fr. Federico Lombardi has confirmed.
13:36 Lombardi in this afternoon's press conference: "very normal" to have black smoke yesterday night and this morning, "no sign of particular split among the cardinals."
12:47 Speaking on U.S. morning television show Good Morning America, President Obama said "It seems to me that an American Pope would preside just as effectively as a Polish Pope or an Italian Pope or a Guatemalan Pope...The Conference of Catholic Bishops in the United States don't seem to be taking orders from me. My hope is, based on what I know about the Catholic Church and the terrific work that thy've done around the world and certainly in this country, helping those who are less fortunate, is that you have a Pope who sustains what I consider the central message of the Gospel which is that we treat everybody as children of God and that we love them the way Jesus Christ taught us to love them."
11:40 (approx.) BLACK SMOKE AGAIN - NO POPE YET. Voting continues
11.33 a.m No smoke from the chimney of the Sistine Chapel, which suggests that the first round of today has not led to the election of the pope.
In the morning you have two votes, and if the smoke is black is made at the end of the two ballots. In the case of election to the first round of voting, smoked, white, takes place after the first ballot. It is likely at this point the third vote.
9.44 a.m. There is no waiting in St. Peter's Square for the second smoke from the chimney of the Sistine Chapel. The Cardinals, in fact, after breakfast in Santa Marta, are returning in the Sistine Chapel for the second vote. Two votes in the morning, two more will follow in the afternoon. In St. Peter's Square, despite the rain, some pilgrim is already pending with the nose of smoke.
19:11 The crowds in St. Peter's Square are rejoicing at the news. It's cheering and photos galore!
19:06 WHITE SMOKE! POPE CHOSEN
18:21 No smoke yet. 17:50, which was the time Joseph Ratzinger was elected Pope in the 2005 Conclave, has passed. Presumably, then, cardinals have not reached a consensus in the fourth scrutiny. The wait is now on for the fifth voting session which is expected to be held at around 19:30 CET. The eyes of the world are fixed on the Sistine Chapel chimney.
18:11 The Sistine Chapel seagull's on Twitter. The feathery fellow who has been flying around the Sistine Chapel chimney is tweeting from the @SistineSeagull account. The seagull, whose profile reads: "Hanging out at Conclave. Loving Life. And Cheetos", has 4,156 followers alread.
17:50The Conclave voting process follows strict rules. These state that four scrutinies are to take place a day, until the Pope is elected: two in the morning and two in the afternoon, with only two black smoke signals (fumate) being sent out a day: one at the end of the second morning vote (around 11:45) and one at the end of the second afternoon vote (at around 18:45). If a new Pope is elected, white smoke could appear either: at 11:45; at 19:00 (approx.); immediately after the first morning scrutiny (at around 10:45) OR immediately after the first afternoon scrutiny (17:45).
17:18 Cardinal electors are in the middle of the fourth voting session for the election of the new Pope. Cardinals were supposed to leave Santa Marta House for the Apostolic Palace at 16:00. It is their choice whether they get there on foot or by bus, though it’s likely they will opt for the bus given the rain. According to some predictions scrutinies should be over by about 17:50. It would be a huge coincidence if the smoke was white as Ratzinger was elected Pope at this time in 2005.
If the result of the ballot is negative, cardinals will proceed straight to the second scheduled afternoon voting session. If this is the case, there should be another smoke signal sometime within the next hour. A smoke signal will be sent out whether a Pope has been elected or not: Cardinals will wait until the end of the second afternoon voting session to send out either a white or a black smoke signal.
16:23 Cardinal Schoenborn: "The Church does not need a general manager, but a man of faith"
14:13 American cardinal, Roger Mahony, who has been accused of covering up sex abuse cases in the U.S., "has every right to take part in the Conclave," Fr. Lombardi said, in response to the stance taken by the association of victims of paedophile priests' (SNAP). "I know how SNAP goes about making its accusations and how it goes about announcing them, taking advantage of a given moment," he added.
14:12 Joseph Ratzinger will not attend the first Mass to celebrate the election of the new Pope, Fr. Federico Lombardi has confirmed.
13:36 Lombardi in this afternoon's press conference: "very normal" to have black smoke yesterday night and this morning, "no sign of particular split among the cardinals."
12:47 Speaking on U.S. morning television show Good Morning America, President Obama said "It seems to me that an American Pope would preside just as effectively as a Polish Pope or an Italian Pope or a Guatemalan Pope...The Conference of Catholic Bishops in the United States don't seem to be taking orders from me. My hope is, based on what I know about the Catholic Church and the terrific work that thy've done around the world and certainly in this country, helping those who are less fortunate, is that you have a Pope who sustains what I consider the central message of the Gospel which is that we treat everybody as children of God and that we love them the way Jesus Christ taught us to love them."
11:40 (approx.) BLACK SMOKE AGAIN - NO POPE YET. Voting continues
11.33 a.m No smoke from the chimney of the Sistine Chapel, which suggests that the first round of today has not led to the election of the pope.
In the morning you have two votes, and if the smoke is black is made at the end of the two ballots. In the case of election to the first round of voting, smoked, white, takes place after the first ballot. It is likely at this point the third vote.
9.44 a.m. There is no waiting in St. Peter's Square for the second smoke from the chimney of the Sistine Chapel. The Cardinals, in fact, after breakfast in Santa Marta, are returning in the Sistine Chapel for the second vote. Two votes in the morning, two more will follow in the afternoon. In St. Peter's Square, despite the rain, some pilgrim is already pending with the nose of smoke.
Annunci PPN
Vatican Insider
13/03/2013
Black smoke: Enter the mediators
The Conclave is deadlocked: the favourites still have an advantage over the rest but a new candidate could spring up
The figure who will next appear on St. Peter’s balcony dressed in
white could be chosen over a plate of pasta or a digestive. Cardinals
have no televisions, landlines or cell phones in their rooms. After the
first negative scrutinies, lunch breaks and dinners in Santa Marta
House, the cardinals’ residence during the Conclave, become
opportunities for informal discussions on disregarding candidates with
weaker consensuses, to the advantage of the papabili who have obtained
more votes so far (Scola, Bergoglio, Ouellet).
This is what happened in 2005 when many of Argentinean cardinal
Bergoglio’s 40 supporters changed their minds during informal talks in
the cardinal electors’Vatican residence, and went for Ratzinger instead.
Once the Conclave started, the 115 cardinal electors isolated
themselves from the outside world. The priests who live in the Santa
Marta residence, near the former Holy Office headquarters have
temporarily been sent to the Domus Romana Sacerdotalis in Via della
Traspontina, while cardinals are involved in the Conclave proceedings.
From the moment cardinal electors entered the Santa Marta
residence, they have not had any contact with the outside world and have
to use protected paths that are constantly under surveillance, to get
about. Every space they enter is monitored and blocked off from all
forms of communication. A Jammer system is in place to prevent
electromagnetic disturbance (similar to those used in international
summits or on military missions, in risk areas) and therefore any
communication via internet and cell phone in the entire area spanning
the cardinal electors’ residence, St. Peter’s Square and the Sistine
Chapel. Constant security checks are carried out on the Santa Marta
residence-Sistine Chapel route, which cardinals can do on foot or by
bus. Everything is checked, from the sitting rooms to the cardinals’ bed
posts. There is no Wi-Fi and access to Twitter and other social
networks is banned. Cardinal electors are not allowed to speak to strangers. They are
only allowed contact with two doctors, some priests who are on hand to
take confessions and the cleaning staff. All those who have to access
the Holy See during the Conclave are bound to the strictest
confidentiality.Annunci PPN
03/13/2013 VATICAN INSIDER
Conclave: Day 2
The Conclave
The second voting session resulted in black smoke. The wait is on as cardinals prepare to hold third ballot
Vatican Insider Staff Vatican City LIVE BROADCAST OF SECOND DAY OF VOTING11:40 (approx.) BLACK SMOKE AGAIN - NO POPE YET. Voting continues
11.33 a.m No smoke from the chimney of the Sistine Chapel, which suggests that the first round of today has not led to the election of the pope.In the morning you have two votes, and if the smoke is black is made at the end of the two ballots. In the case of election to the first round of voting, smoked, white, takes place after the first ballot. It is likely at this point the third vote.
9.44 a.m. There is no waiting in St. Peter's Square for the second smoke from the chimney of the Sistine Chapel. The Cardinals, in fact, after breakfast in Santa Marta, are returning in the Sistine Chapel for the second vote. Two votes in the morning, two more will follow in the afternoon. In St. Peter's Square, despite the rain, some pilgrim is already pending with the nose of smoke.
03/13/2013 VATICAN INSIDER
Cardinal Onaiyken: the new Pope cannot ignore Islam
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[Translate to English:] John Olorunfemi Onaiyekan
Nigeria’s Cardinal expects new pope to be an evangelizer, to work closely with the bishops, to be attentive to Islam and other religions. Age is not a barrier
Gerard O'Connell RomeCardinal John Olorunfemi Onaiyekan, 69, archbishop of Abuja, is former President of the Catholic Bishops Conference of Nigeria, and of the country’s Christian Association. This friendly, intellectual man is a leading figure in the African Church, a strong advocate of non-violence, a promoter of peace, dialogue and cooperation between Christians and Muslims. Created cardinal by Pope Benedict last November, he enters the conclave with 10 other African cardinals to elect the new pope.
You are going to enter the conclave soon, what qualities are you looking for in the new pope?
Let me speak very frankly. My understanding of the papacy and particularly of this special process – the conclave, and my faith feeling is that the cardinals enter the conclave with the Holy Spirit and with the Mother of Jesus, and then they will be led to identify whom God has chosen. I’m not looking at it in terms of we are going into choose somebody, but rather we are going in there to discover God’s will for his Church. If we take it from there, the question of what kind of pope we are looking for just doesn’t arise.I believe that whoever emerges in the election, from the moment he has agreed he becomes pope from that point on he is the Holy Father. Whatever his name was, whatever his nation was and, of course, whatever his color is doesn’t matter anymore.
Will age be an important factor in the choice of pope, given that Benedict XVI resigned because he said he did not have the physical and mental energy for the job?
For the job as he saw it. Maybe there could be another pope who would have the same bodily weakness as he and still feel that he is doing the job well enough, but Benedict was himself, he was the kind of pope that didn’t want to sit there dressed in papal clothing and let the other people do the work for him. He’s not the kind of person who wants to do that, and therefore he has taken advantage of the previsions of Canon Law.
Many cardinals say they’d like a holy man, a man who can govern, a pastor and so on. Don’t you have any similar thoughts? People say the pope should be a saint, a good communicator, a good administrator, a financier and so on, and you begin to ask yourself, who is in this world who can have all these qualities? The fact is each pope has his own particular qualities. The only idea I have is this: Whoever is elected as pope, from that point on the rest of the Church will follow him. I am not going there with somebody in mind whom I have to choose.
So you haven’t a clear candidate in your mind?
No. I believe the Holy Spirit will guide us.
Do your fellow African cardinals feel like you?
For me several of them are eligible (to be pope). I certainly am not excluding my African brothers. I don’t share the view that maybe it’s time to elect an Italian once again or maybe we should choose a South American, or may we should have an African pope. These are mere human speculations; the next pope can come from anywhere.
Could he even come from the United States of America?
If he comes from there he will still be pope, he will no longer be an American. Though in the world out there that kind of job is usually not taken by the big powers, and so the Secretary General of the UN is taken from a small country. In other words there’s no reason why anybody cannot become pope. Obviously some people are known and some are not known. I believe that God can bring us somebody that we don’t even think about. I am going in there with the mentality that I am going in there that is a holy duty that I have to perform, and that task is not given to everybody. I am going in there because God calls me to do it, and therefore I am going to do what God wants me to do.
You come from Nigeria and the whole question of relations between Christianity and Islam is a big issue, would you like to see a pope who is particularly sensitive to this?
I don’t think anybody can be a pope and ignore Islam. In a way Islam has almost one billion members, and is the next biggest religion after Christianity, and its presence is also growing more recently in Europe and America, so you cannot ignore it. But the pope will have to relate to other religions too. The Pope is the pope for all. Therefore, the concerns of the Catholic Church and of the world in every corner of the globe are his concerns too.
Many say the question of evangelization is a key factor in what you are looking for in the pope
That is what the Church is for: evangelization. I would say since the first African synod in 1994 this question of the evangelizing mission of the Church in Africa has become central.
The Pope is also pope of the central government of the Catholic Church, the Holy See, the Vatican, and we’ve seen many problems, such as Vatileaks, emerge in recent times. Have they impacted in any way in Africa?
I wouldn’t say they have impacted that much, expect the press, radio and TV have reported them and people have just wondered what’s happening there in the Vatican? In my own Church they haven’t impacted that much. The central office is like the engine room in a ship, you know it’s better not go down there. In the central office of every big organization, and the Church is a very big organization, you find everything that is in any human organization - good people, not so good people, brilliant people, careerists and those who work with a sense of mission. You get all that. It’s not a new thing.
Can you see yourself electing a man over 75?
If a man of 75 comes up as the best person, why not? The age bracket for all of us cardinal electors is 80. If a 75 year old becomes pope, he can generally have 10 years, or 15 years, and is that not long enough for a pope? The pontificate of John Paul II which was 25 years is not normal in the history of the Church.The average term a pope’s reign is about 10 years or maybe less. In past centuries popes died earlier, but now the question we are facing is how long do we keep a pope on the throne after the age of 90? Is it really what the Church needs? I would not lose my faith in the Church if a future pope came out with a Motu Proprio setting age limits for Popes too, like you have already for bishops and cardinal electors.
Can you see the conclave electing a really young pope? One candidate from Asia is 55
If we do that, then we have to prepare for a long reign unless something happens to him, such as someone shoots them or poisons them or so on. Look at Peter, he was executed in this city, and one should not be surprised if his successors are attacked.
Do you think it is important for the pope to travel like John Paul II did, and Benedict XVI to a certain extent?
Yes. In these days people cannot just sit in Rome, read reports and wait for ‘ad limina’ visits. It is good that he goes out there to visit people. You see he is the universal pastor. Now it is possible for the pope to take off from Rome today and arrive almost anywhere in the world in 24 hours.The question of collegiality has kept coming up since the Second Vatican Council. Do you hope, expect the new pope to develop this a little more, to involve the bishops somewhat more?A pope works within a tradition, and one of the elements of the tradition is the teachings of the Councils, so whoever is pope is committed to the main outline of the Second Vatican Council and collegiality is a major block in that tradition.So one would expect that the next pope would continue what has been done up to now. He may exercise collegiality in some new ways, in some innovative ways, we don’t know. There’s plenty of room for development here
Do you expect a long conclave?
Well, if we do four ballots every day, by the time we have voted ten times I think we should know where we are going. Eventually we will find somebody to hang this burden on, somebody to accept this load. He then becomes a prisoner for Christ’s sake.
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