Tuesday, December 10, 2013

PA REJECTS ISRAELS IDF 10 YR PRESENCE IN JORDAN VALLEY

LUKE 21:28-29
28 And when these things begin to come to pass,(ALL THE PROPHECY SIGNS FROM THE BIBLE) then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption (RAPTURE) draweth nigh.
29 And he spake to them a parable; Behold the fig tree,(ISRAEL) and all the trees;(ALL INDEPENDENT COUNTRIES)
30 When they now shoot forth, ye see and know of your own selves that summer is now nigh at hand.(ISRAEL LITERALLY BECAME AND INDEPENDENT COUNTRY JUST BEFORE SUMMER IN MAY 14,1948.)

And here are the bounderies of the land that Israel will inherit either through war or peace or God in the future. God says its Israels land and only Israels land. They will have every inch God promised them of this land in the future.

Egypt east of the Nile River, Saudi Arabia, Israel, Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, The southern part of Turkey and the Western Half of Iraq west of the Euphrates. Gen 13:14-15, Psm 105:9,11, Gen 15:18, Exe 23:31, Num 34:1-12, Josh 1:4.ALL THIS LAND ISRAEL WILL DEFINATELY OWN IN THE FUTURE, ITS ISRAELS NOT ISHMAELS LAND.

12 TRIBES INHERIT LAND IN THE FUTURE

Palestinians reject US proposal for 10-year IDF presence in Jordan Valley

Official PA daily reports Kerry-Abbas meeting last week turned ‘worse than bad’ after proposal was pitched

By Elhanan Miller and Avi Issacharoff December 10, 2013, 5:11 pm 4-The times of Israel
The 10-year period of Israeli military deployment would be used to train Palestinian forces to take over responsibility for the border, Kerry had said, according to Al-Ayyam.On Sunday, Abbas met with the the American consul general in Jerusalem, Michael Ratney, and formally rejected the proposal, saying that the Palestinian position was “unequivocal”: no Israeli presence, though the Palestinians would tolerate a third-party military presence.“The Americans have started talking about security arrangements that completely adopt the Israeli point of view, whether regarding the Jordan Valley, the border crossings, or the [West Bank’s] airspace,” the unnamed official accused.Israel’s demand for a military presence in the Jordan Valley had nothing to do with security, but reflected Israel’s political gluttony, the official charged.In a briefing to EU parliamentarians last week, former Fatah security official Mohammad Dahlan complained that the negotiations were rehashing proposals for the Jordan Valley that Israel had already agreed to at the Camp David talks 13 years ago, including the idea of an international military presence.Haviv Rettig Gur contributed to this report.

LAND FOR PEACE (THE FUTURE 7 YEARS OF HELL ON EARTH)

JOEL 3:2
2 I will also gather all nations, and will bring them down into the valley of Jehoshaphat, and will plead with them there for my people(ISRAEL) and for my heritage Israel, whom they have scattered among the nations, and parted my land.(UPROOTED ISRAELIS AND DIVIDED JERUSALEM)(THIS BRINGS ON WW3 BECAUSE JERUSALEM IS DIVIDED,WARNING TO ARABS-MUSLIMS AND THE WORLD).

THE WEEK OF DANIEL 9:27 WE KNOW ITS 7 YRS

Heres the scripture 1 week = 7 yrs Genesis 29:27-29
27 Fulfil her week, and we will give thee this also for the service which thou shalt serve with me yet seven other years.
28 And Jacob did so, and fulfilled her week: and he gave him Rachel his daughter to wife also.
29 And Laban gave to Rachel his daughter Bilhah his handmaid to be her maid.

DANIEL 11:21-23
21 And in his estate shall stand up a vile person, to whom they shall not give the honour of the kingdom: but he shall come in peaceably, and obtain the kingdom by flatteries.
23 And after the league made with him he shall work deceitfully: for he shall come up, and shall become strong with a small people.
24 He shall enter peaceably even upon the fattest places of the province; and he shall do that which his fathers have not done, nor his fathers' fathers; he shall scatter among them the prey, and spoil, and riches: yea, and he shall forecast his devices against the strong holds, even for a time.

DANIEL 9:26-27
26 And after threescore and two weeks(62X7=434 YEARS+7X7=49 YEARS=TOTAL OF 69 WEEKS OR 483 YRS) shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary;(ROMAN LEADERS DESTROYED THE 2ND TEMPLE) and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.(THERE HAS TO BE 70 WEEKS OR 490 YRS TO FUFILL THE VISION AND PROPHECY OF DAN 9:24).(THE NEXT VERSE IS THAT 7 YR WEEK OR (70TH FINAL WEEK).
27 And he ( THE ROMAN,EU PRESIDENT) shall confirm the covenant (PEACE TREATY) with many for one week:(1X7=7 YEARS) and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease,(3 1/2 yrs in TEMPLE ANIMAL SACRIFICES STOPPED) and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

JEREMIAH 6:14
14 They have healed also the hurt of the daughter of my people slightly, saying, Peace, peace; when there is no peace.

JEREMIAH 8:11
11 For they have healed the hurt of the daughter of my people slightly, saying, Peace, peace; when there is no peace.

1 THESSALONIANS 5:3
3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.

ISAIAH 33:8
8  The highways lie waste, the wayfaring man ceaseth: he hath broken the covenant,(7 YR TREATY) he hath despised the cities, he regardeth no man.(THE WORLD LEADER-WAR MONGER CALLS HIMSELF GOD)

ISAIAH 28:14-19 (THIS IS THE 7 YR TREATY COVENANT OF DANIEL 9:27)
14 Wherefore hear the word of the LORD, ye scornful men, that rule this people which is in Jerusalem.
15 Because ye have said, We have made a covenant with death, and with hell are we at agreement; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, it shall not come unto us: for we have made lies our refuge, and under falsehood have we hid ourselves:
16 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD, Behold, I lay in Zion for a foundation a stone, a tried stone, a precious corner stone, a sure foundation: he that believeth shall not make haste.
17 Judgment also will I lay to the line, and righteousness to the plummet: and the hail shall sweep away the refuge of lies, and the waters shall overflow the hiding place.
18 And your covenant with death shall be disannulled, and your agreement with hell shall not stand; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, then ye shall be trodden down by it.
19 From the time that it goeth forth it shall take you: for morning by morning shall it pass over, by day and by night: and it shall be a vexation only to understand the report.

Netanyahu: Any peace agreement will be brought to referendum

Prime minister rebuffs talk of coalition realignment in service of peace deal, saying it will be decided by nation

By Times of Israel staff December 9, 2013, 7:12 pm 5
A day after Finance Minister Yair Lapid said he would support a coalition shift to back a peace agreement with the Palestinians, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu assured his fellow Likud-Beytenu lawmakers Monday that any agreement would be subject to a national referendum, and not just Knesset politics.
“Any agreement reached will come to a referendum,” Netanyahu declared in a Likud-Beytenu faction meeting. “I committed to it and this is essentially correct and would happen if any agreement is reached.”
Netanyahu also told the faction he did not anticipate an accord being signed in the near future, in comments that contrasted with recent upbeat assessments by US Secretary of State John Kerry.The referendum bill, proposed by coalition chair MK Yariv Levin, passed its first reading in the Knesset on August 1 with 66 in favor and 45 opposed. The proposed legislation is an extension of a 2010 law and would require all land-for-peace deals to be submitted to a public vote. The law would cover areas in sovereign Israel, including East Jerusalem and the Golan Heights, but would not apply to the West Bank.The referendum bill is currently undergoing revision and will be brought to a second and third reading at a later date.“What will determine whether an agreement will be reached is not the composition of this or any other coalition, but rather the essence of the deal,” Netanyahu said, addressing Lapid’s remarks Sunday that a coalition change may be in order to further a peace deal.On Sunday, Lapid vowed to not let the peace process be derailed by extremists, hinting at opposition to a deal by the nationalist Jewish Home party, which sits in the coalition.
“I’m determined to do everything within my power to ensure that this government stays the course — even if developments in the peace negotiations necessitate a coalition realignment of one kind or another,” he said.
Earlier Sunday Jewish Home party leader Naftali Bennett called peace negotiations that did not include Hamas, which rules the Gaza Strip, “a joke.”The referendum bill was initially met with fierce opposition by a number of prominent Knesset members, including current Foreign Minister Avigdor Liberman, former opposition leader Shelly Yachimovich, Lapid, and Justice Minister Tzipi Livni, who is managing talks with the Palestinians.“When we declare war, we don’t ask the nation (what they think),” Livni said in July. “This is how it should also be regarding any political settlement.” In a critique leveled at the proposed law, Liberman referred to the bill as a way for “decision makers to run away from responsibility.”Bennett has touted a referendum as “the only way to prevent a rift in the nation.”Israel and the Palestinians are five months into a planned nine-month negotiation aimed at coming to a peace agreement. Despite reports from both sides that the talks are reaching a dead end, the US, which is brokering the talks, has remained optimistic.
On Friday, Kerry said the sides were closer to peace than they had been in years.

Abbas aide lambasts US push for framework deal

Yasser Abed Rabbo says US secretary of state is breaking promise to try to negotiate a final agreement in current talks; Kerry due in region Wednesday

By Karin Laub December 10, 2013, 7:57 am 4-The times of Israel
RAMALLAH, West Bank (AP) — A senior Palestinian official on Monday railed against US attempts to broker a broad outline of an Israeli-Palestinian peace deal, saying Secretary of State John Kerry is breaking a promise to try to negotiate a final agreement in the current round of talks.The Palestinian leadership is concerned that such a framework deal will accommodate very specific Israeli security demands, while offering only vague promises to the Palestinians, said Yasser Abed Rabbo, a top aide to Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas.“This contradicts completely what we were promised by the American secretary of state at the beginning of this peace process … to avoid any partial or interim agreements,” he told the Voice of Palestine radio station.Both Kerry and President Barack Obama said over the weekend that the US was pursuing a framework agreement, but did not provide details. Obama said it’s possible to reach such an outline over the next few months.State Department spokeswoman Jen Psaki said Monday that the US is not focused on an interim deal, but is focused on a final deal. She also said that there will be a process for getting to a final deal, but did not elaborate.She said Obama and Kerry both referred last weekend to a “framework.”“I think some thought — took that to mean interim,” Psaki said. “It does not mean interim. We still remain focused on a final status agreement.”Security arrangements between Israel and a future Palestine would be central to such a framework. Kerry has argued that progress in negotiations is only possible if Israeli security concerns are addressed first.Last week, Kerry presented a new US security plan to Abbas and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, including arrangements for the border between Jordan and a state of Palestine.Under the plan, Israel would have final say at that border for at least 10 years and would also have a military presence in the strip of land next to it, the West Bank’s Jordan Valley, according to two Palestinian officials who spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the details of the negotiations.Israeli officials have said they fear militants and weapons could be smuggled into a future Palestine if Israel gives up control over the West Bank-Jordan border. Abbas has said he is willing to accept an international presence there, but not Israeli forces.Psaki said that Kerry met on Monday in Washington with Israeli negotiator Tzipi Livni and Palestinian negotiator Saeb Erekat. She also announced that Kerry would be leaving Washington on Wednesday to return to the region for more talks with Netanyahu in Jerusalem and Abbas in Ramallah.The Palestinians want a state in the West Bank, Gaza and east Jerusalem, lands Israel captured in 1967, but are willing to accept minor land swaps in drawing the final border to accommodate some of the settlements Israel has built on war-won land.Netanyahu has refused to commit to what the Palestinians and most of the international community considers a basic ground rule — that border negotiations use the 1967 lines as a starting point.The two Palestinian officials who were briefed on the Kerry-Abbas meeting said the secretary is aiming for a framework agreement by the end of January.
Obama, meanwhile, said in his weekend remarks to a Washington think tank that neither Israel nor the Palestinians have signed on to the US security plan.“We are going to have to see whether the Israelis agree and whether President Abbas is willing to understand that this transition period requires some restraint on the part of the Palestinians as well,” he said.“They don’t get everything that they want on day one,” Obama said, referring to the Palestinians. “And that creates some political problems for President Abbas as well.”
It’s not clear what the other components of a framework deal would be, and if Kerry could obtain Netanyahu’s commitment to the 1967 frontier as a baseline.Obama noted that “we know what the outlines of a potential agreement might look like,” an apparent reference to earlier parameters for a deal presented by then-president Bill Clinton more than a decade ago.The Palestinian officials, meanwhile, said Kerry asked them to accept a change in the timetable of upcoming releases of Palestinian prisoners by Israel.In all, Israel has agreed to release 104 veteran Palestinian prisoners in four stages during the current negotiations, which began in late July and are to conclude in April. Israel has so far released two groups of prisoners.Kerry wants the last two releases to be combined and be carried out in late January, instead of being done in two installments, the Palestinian officials said.Earlier Monday, Abed Rabbo alleged that the US was using the prisoners to “blackmail” the Palestinians to accept a vague framework deal that fails to meet Palestinian demands.“Our brothers, the prisoners, should know that they are being used and their cause is being used for extortion, and they are the first to reject such extortion,” he said.Israel agreed to release 104 Palestinian prisoners in four stages during the negotiations, with the final two releases in late December and March. Fifty-four prisoners have already been released.Two Palestinian officials said Kerry proposed to free all remaining prisoners in late January and link the release to a framework agreement. They spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to brief the media.Abed Rabbo said the Palestinians insist that the next group of prisoners be released at the end of December.Psaki would not comment on reports that the US is pushing to delay the prisoners’ release.Times of Israel staff contributed to this report.

Days after leaving, Kerry to return to Jerusalem

Iran and peace talks on the agenda in meeting with Netanyahu; top US diplomat will also travel to Ramallah

By Times of Israel staff December 10, 2013, 12:41 am 2
US Secretary of State John Kerry will visit Israel Wednesday for the second time in as many weeks. He will meet with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu regarding Iran and the ongoing peace negotiations with the Palestinians, the US State Department announced Monday.Kerry will also meet with Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas in Ramallah during his trip, before traveling on to Asia. This will be his ninth visit to Israel since becoming the top US diplomat less than a year ago, as he attempts to patch together an elusive peace deal.The secretary will be looking to build on a visit last week, after which he proclaimed that the sides were “closer to peace than we’ve been in years.” However, he failed to win over either the Israelis or the Palestinians with a proposed security plan, and there have been no other reports of progress in the talks.Yasser Abed Rabbo, a top aide to Abbas, on Monday railed against US attempts to broker a broad outline for Israeli-Palestinian peace, saying Kerry was breaking a promise to try to negotiate a final agreement in the current nine-month cycle of talks.The Palestinian leadership is concerned that a framework deal will accommodate very specific Israeli security demands, while offering only vague promises to the Palestinians, Rabbo said.“This contradicts completely what we were promised by the American secretary of state at the beginning of this peace process… to avoid any partial or interim agreements,” he told the Voice of Palestine radio station.Unnamed Palestinian officials also accused Kerry of blackmailing their representatives, pushing for a delay in planned prisoner releases so they can coincide with the signing of a potential outline agreement. Kerry wants the last two scheduled releases to be combined and carried out in late January, the officials said.Rabbo did not refer to the details of Kerry’s purported request but said the Palestinians insist that the next group of prisoners be released at the end of December, as scheduled.
“Our brothers, the prisoners, should know that they are being used and their cause is being used for extortion, and they are the first to reject such extortion,” he said.Both Kerry and President Barack Obama said over the weekend that the US is pursuing a framework agreement, but did not provide details. Obama said it’s possible to reach such a deal over the next few months.State Department spokeswoman Jen Psaki said Monday that the US is not focused on an interim deal, but is focused on a final deal. She also said that there will be a process for getting to a final deal, but did not elaborate.She said Obama and Kerry both referred last weekend to a “framework.”Acknowledging that Obama and Kerry referred to a “framework,” Psaki said, “I think some thought — took that to mean interim… It does not mean interim. We still remain focused on a final status agreement.”The US security plan presented by Kerry last week reportedly provided for a series of crossings along the Jordan Valley border between the West Bank and Jordan which would be jointly controlled by Israel and the PA. The entire border itself, however, would remain under full Israeli control, with the IDF joined only by a symbolic Palestinian security presence. These arrangements would hold for many years, but not necessarily permanently, a Channel 2 report revealed, the implication being that in a future, new era of stability and mutual confidence, Israel might transfer more authority to the Palestinians.
Under last week’s proposal, the US would reportedly provide an additional security “envelope,” which would utilize drones and other high-tech equipment to provide real-time intelligence on any terrorist threats and other unlawful border activity.According to Channel 10 News, the plan’s layout also stated that “Greater Jerusalem,” which would include the city’s adjacent towns and villages, would be divided. The eastern side of the city would serve as the capital of a Palestinian state, while the western part would continue serving as Israel’s capital.It is not clear how Jerusalem’s Old City, at the heart of the conflict, would be administered under the proposed US plan.The Palestinians have largely rejected the proposal, maintaining that any IDF presence in the Jordan Valley would violate their sovereignty.Israeli sources called the security plan “interesting” and “complex” but ultimately “not sufficient,” according to Channel 2. Nonetheless, Israel is said to be studying the plan and has not rejected it outright.The current round of talks, which began in July after more than three years of diplomatic stagnation, is scheduled to end in March.The Associated Press contributed to this report.

JEREMEIAH 49:35-37 (IN IRAN AT THE BUSHEHR OR ARAK NUKE SITE SOME BELIEVE)
35  Thus saith the LORD of hosts; Behold, I will break the bow of Elam,(IRAN/BUSHEHR NUCLEAR SITE) the chief of their might.(MOST DANGEROUS NUKE SITE IN IRAN)
36  And upon Elam will I bring the four winds from the four quarters of heaven,(IRANIANS SCATTERED OR MASS IMIGARATION) and will scatter them toward all those winds; and there shall be no nation whither the outcasts of Elam shall not come.(WORLD IMMIGRATION)
37  For I will cause Elam (IRAN-BUSHEHR NUKE SITE) to be dismayed before their enemies, and before them that seek their life: and I will bring evil upon them, even my fierce anger,(ISRAELS NUKES POSSIBLY) saith the LORD; and I will send the sword after them, till I have consumed them:(IRAN AND ITS NUKE SITES DESTROYED)

Iran dismisses Peres offer to meet Rouhani

AFP
35 minutes ago-DEC 10,13-Yahoonews
Tehran (AFP) - Iran on Tuesday dismissed an offer from Israel's president to meet his Iranian counterpart as a propaganda ploy to ease Israeli isolation over a nuclear accord between Tehran and world powers."This propaganda to help the regime out of isolation will prove fruitless," foreign ministry spokeswoman Marzieh Afkham told reporters.She said President Shimon Peres's offer was aimed at helping Iran's arch-foe Israel out of its isolation after its outspoken opposition to the nuclear deal clinched last month in Geneva.Asked on Sunday about a possible meeting with Iran's President Hassan Rouhani, Peres said: "Why not? I don't have enemies. It's not a question of personalities but of policies.""The aim is to transform enemies into friends," said the president, whose role in Israel is symbolic and ceremonial.But the foreign ministry spokeswoman said her country would never recognise the Jewish state or change its stand."There has not been nor will there be any change on Iran's stance and views regarding the Zionist regime" in Israel, Afkham said."Iran does not recognise Israel. Our position regarding this oppressive and occupationist regime -- which is completely illegitimate and has been created to occupy the lands of the Palestinians -- is clear," she added.Israel, the sole if undeclared nuclear power in the Middle East, accuses Iran of working to develop a nuclear bomb, a charge denied by the Islamic republic.Tehran has a long history of belligerent statements towards Israel and supports its foes, the Palestinian Islamist movement Hamas and Lebanon's Shiite militant group Hezbollah.Israel has warned of military action to prevent a nuclear Iran that it says would pose an existential threat, with Tehran threatening to retaliate.
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